metrokat Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Have you seen that ad - how to install a washing machine with one finger. http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7MsT/lowes-how-to-install-a-new-washing-machine-with-one-finger I'm totally coming over. Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Have you seen that ad - how to install a washing machine with one finger. http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7MsT/lowes-how-to-install-a-new-washing-machine-with-one-finger I'm totally coming over. LMAO i could see you doing that. "Move those rocks a little to the right" 2 Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Watching national geographic documentaries on the great barrier reef at work... Slow day 4 Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Everything was going good, left work early to go grab the tank, super excited. It barely fit into my mustang.... Untitled by justin arce, on Flickr Then i get home, eagerly set it up on the stand and start filling it.... Then this happened..... Untitled by justin arce, on Flickr Now, this wasn't happening dry, there were no bubbles i double and triple checked all seams before i left the store. It happened after i filled it. With a lot of research I've found others with similar issues. They are saying that its due to the stress of the bowing but it isn't a structural issue. To test this i squeezed the panels together and watched the bubbles disappear then reappear as i let go. Now i have no idea how this doesn't affect it structurally, but if there's any merit to the posts i found, they had contacted aqueon and posted their response and it clearly stated that. Whats everyone think????? 2 Quote Link to comment
jbb Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 My 40b never did that and I used it for ~ 3 years I would be nervous 4 Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 My 40b never did that and I used it for ~ 3 years I would be nervous To be safe i drained it. Waiting for my LFS to get back to me. 2 Quote Link to comment
jbb Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 To be safe i drained it. Waiting for my LFS to get back to me. Better safe than sorry . 40g doesn't seem like much until you're soaking it up with towels. Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Better safe than sorry . 40g doesn't seem like much until you're soaking it up with towels. Yea lol. I just emailed aqueon so lets see what they do about it. Ive continued researching, seems there are a bunch of people who also experienced this. Not sure what they ended up doing but they all seem to have gotten the same answer from aqueon. Quote Link to comment
jbb Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 That's BS . They don't have to cover any damage caused by a blown seam so I can see why they wouldn't recall the tanks, but if that was "normal" then why do other tanks not do it ? Quote Link to comment
Sk8n Reefer Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 That seems odd- good move on draining it- will your lfs take it back? Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 That's BS . They don't have to cover any damage caused by a blown seam so I can see why they wouldn't recall the tanks, but if that was "normal" then why do other tanks not do it ?No idea, will have to see what they sayThat seems odd- good move on draining it- will your lfs take it back? Going to try to take it back, hoping he doesnt give me a hard time 1 Quote Link to comment
kimberbee Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Any answer from Aqueon yet? I wouldn't trust it. Maybe it's a bad batch or something like that? I'd even be leery of getting another tank from the same LFS... Quote Link to comment
D Z Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Going to try to take it back Arce - This is the reefing god's way of telling you to go custom!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
reefernanoman Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Everything was going good, left work early to go grab the tank, super excited. It barely fit into my mustang.... Untitled by justin arce, on Flickr Then i get home, eagerly set it up on the stand and start filling it.... Then this happened..... Untitled by justin arce, on Flickr Now, this wasn't happening dry, there were no bubbles i double and triple checked all seams before i left the store. It happened after i filled it. With a lot of research I've found others with similar issues. They are saying that its due to the stress of the bowing but it isn't a structural issue. To test this i squeezed the panels together and watched the bubbles disappear then reappear as i let go. Now i have no idea how this doesn't affect it structurally, but if there's any merit to the posts i found, they had contacted aqueon and posted their response and it clearly stated that. Whats everyone think????? Damn that sucks! Take it back. Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Aqueon's response.... Hi Justin, Thanks for the email! When tanks this size are put together at the seam, the silicone pushes together and squishes out. As it dries, air bubbles may form inside the actual seam and stretch out. If tiny enough they may not be noticeable until water is added to the tank and water pressure pushes on the glass panels stretching them a bit. This is not something that will have any effect on the integrity of the tank. Most all of the larger tanks do have this happen to them, as the glass gets heavier and the maneuverability during construction gets more difficult. It can also depend on the climate on the individual day that this run of tanks were built. Moisture in the air can affect this process as well. The silicone is designed to have some stretch otherwise if the tank was glued using a ridged adhesive and gets jostled sideways at all, the seam would break away. The elasticity of the silicone prevents that from happening and maintains the water tight seal all at the same time. These bubbles can have several different “looks” and are not uncommon posing no threat to the integrity of the tank. Quote Link to comment
D Z Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Well, makes sense I guess.....still think you should return it and go custom! Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Well, makes sense I guess.....still think you should return it and go custom! Dont have the cash for that. Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Aqueons next response after i sent them the picture... Justin, From the photo you sent the structure of the tank appears to be sound and the bubbles are not effecting the integrity of the tank. If you are still uneasy, because this was a new purchase I would recommend exchanging it through the store. If the store cannot help, the Aqueon 40Br tank has a 5yr warranty in which the tank can be replaced once after all the correct information is collect. You will also be required to empty the tank and return it to the store. Please let me know how you would like to proceed. 1 Quote Link to comment
vlangel Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 5 years is a pretty good warrantee. AGA used to only warrantee 1 year. Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Good news. Talked to my LFS they are ordering me a new tank and exchanging it. I also spoke with aqueon about when my heater began shocking me. They sent me a new 200w heater no charge. So i must say Aqueon has been great and very responsive with my tank issues and the heater. Lets just hope the 40 i get later this week doesnt do the same thing. 4 Quote Link to comment
Steensj2004 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I had two in a row do this on me, it's apparently normal and just the way they are. I refused to risk it and upgraded to the 75 instead. My bubbles and the white haze grew slowly, not my idea of,"Normal." I know it's more money but you might consider a Deep Blue if the new one does the same thing. Quote Link to comment
CatfishSoupFTW Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 there are some great chinese starfire tanks out there. I own a few and I love them. Clean seams, no bubbles, rimless, crystal clear and best of alll... CHEAP! or well... somewhat. A 21 gal is about 160 after tax. but, best of luck if you keep with what you got ! im sure it will hold watta Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I had two in a row do this on me, it's apparently normal and just the way they are. I refused to risk it and upgraded to the 75 instead. My bubbles and the white haze grew slowly, not my idea of,"Normal." I know it's more money but you might consider a Deep Blue if the new one does the same thing. Yea im hoping the next one doesnt do the same to me. I was considering Deep blues. But i brought the tank back to my LFS and the owner actually has the deep blue 80s as his frag tanks and we went around all of them and noticed they all showed some bubbling but not to the extent mine did. Those tanks were running with no problems for 5+years. there are some great chinese starfire tanks out there. I own a few and I love them. Clean seams, no bubbles, rimless, crystal clear and best of alll... CHEAP! or well... somewhat. A 21 gal is about 160 after tax. but, best of luck if you keep with what you got ! im sure it will hold watta Thanks, Its an option, but if i were to go custom id do it the right way and either go with a well known big name or a local company. Quote Link to comment
Arce Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Im so tempted.... http://www.pacificeastaquaculture.com/Teal-Staghorn-*-WYSIWYG-Prodview.html http://www.pacificeastaquaculture.com/Purple-tip-Acropora-spathulata-*-WYSIWYG-Prodview.html Quote Link to comment
Steensj2004 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I had a piece of a similar stag in my Nuvo..... It's badass... Good grower too 2 Quote Link to comment
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