seabass Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, kimdawg said: Thanks Seabass, I am thinking about taking half of the width off the shelf. So that would leave it about 17x3x5 if my husband can enclose it. Hoping that would take me down enough volume to put an aqua clear 70 on it. I am just trying to figure out of that puts the total in the contest limits. Oh, I assumed the shelf was only 8" long. With it being 17" long, the glass itself can affect the volume capacity. According to the online tank volume calculator a ¼" sheet of glass that's 17" x 5" and sealed to the inside of the tank, is enough to reduce your tank's volume by 0.1 of a gallon (qualifying it for the contest). Sealing off 1.75" under a 17" long shelf (that is 5" high) would reduce the volume by 0.64 gallons (putting it just under 9 gallons). And a sealed 17" x 3" x 5" box would reduce the volume capacity by 1.1 gallons (making your tank 8.5 gallons, which I believe leaves plenty of capacity for an AquaClear 70). 👍 Quote Link to comment
StinkyBunny Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 A strong word of caution about glass vessels of any sort. Applying a foam backing/base to them is a very good idea. ANY pressure points on glass, especially Chinese made glass is a recipe for disaster. I know many of the supporters of Nano-Reefs sell the foam as we use it on all of our tanks that have no plastic bottom frame. 5 1 Quote Link to comment
CD_Scapes Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 @seabass welp you really pulled my leg (and my jew RA job)...I will be joining my first ever NR contest (after I get my RA refund) 3 Quote Link to comment
kimdawg Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Ok, I think I will use my 9.6 gallon tank and add in two acrylic display cases that total 16.2x 3.5x3.75 That should put me at less than 9.19 gallons if I use a half gallon Aqua Clear 70 HOB. Would this amount of water still be ok for this contest? 2 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, kimdawg said: That should put me at less than 9.19 gallons if I use a half gallon Aqua Clear 70 HOB. Would this amount of water still be ok for this contest? Yes, 9.19 gallons of total saltwater capacity is fine. 👍 Just make sure that you seal these boxes to your tank. But attaching acrylic to glass doesn't usually go very well (and they'd want to float). You might be better off using glass panels and silicone to secure them. A glass shop should be able to provide you with cut panels if you are uncomfortable with cutting your own. I don't know what you are planning, so I'm not exactly sure how to advise you. I imagine that some people will go completely without filters, or will use internal filters. If you went this route, you could qualify by attaching a 15 x 8" quarter inch think glass panel to the bottom (0.13 gallons). It'd be covered with sand, and you'd have no idea it was even there. You could even use an acrylic panel, as it wouldn't be holding air, so wouldn't want to float. Quote Link to comment
kimdawg Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 My husband is going to use silicone to seal them shut. We will fill them with rock and sand out of the yard first. I definitely do not want any water to get in and out of that container. It would become a nitrate factory if it did. Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I wonder what the dollar store has for containers. That mug, mystery gift and stapler is calling to me. 3 Quote Link to comment
This guy is extra salty Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Wait if I use a HOb filter it counts as the Volume of water? Damn I wanted to use a tidal 110 Quote Link to comment
PeterU Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, This guy is extra salty said: Wait if I use a HOb filter it counts as the Volume of water? Damn I wanted to use a tidal 110 Entries can be any system capable of holding a total volume of water between 5 and 9 gallons [US, liquid]*, including: any tank or multiple tanks, or any container or containers, with any filter(s), sump, closed loop, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, This guy is extra salty said: Wait if I use a HOb filter it counts as the Volume of water? Yep. 1 hour ago, This guy is extra salty said: Damn I wanted to use a tidal 110 1 Quote Link to comment
Ratvan Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Ok, have managed to find enough equipment to at least start a tank of some form, also the gimmick has been tested 😁 3 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ratvan said: Ok, have managed to find enough equipment to at least start a tank of some form, also the gimmick has been tested 😁 1 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 These questions haven't been asked yet, but I thought I'd address them before the official start of the contest. Q) After already starting a contest entry, can I change my mind and pick another tank/container? A) You can change your entry BEFORE Wednesday December 1, 2021, by taking another entry pic, and having a journal thread for it with the 9to5 tag. Q) What if my entry breaks during the contest; can I start a new one on or after December 1st? A) You can replace the tank or container with an identical tank or container. However, after November 30th, you cannot change your entry to something completely different. Q) During the contest, can I change my sump, lighting, pumps, filter, etc? A) As long as the total saltwater volume stays within the 9 to 5 gallon range (rounded to the nearest US gallon), you can add, remove, or change anything besides your display tank/container. 7 Quote Link to comment
Murphs_Reef Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I MIGHT be in on this after all, maybe 2 2 Quote Link to comment
NoOneLikesADryTang Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Murphych said: I MIGHT be in on this after all, maybe Getting that shed ready, huh?! 7 Quote Link to comment
Murphs_Reef Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, NoOneLikesADryTang said: Getting that shed ready, huh?! Painted and carpets down 1 6 Quote Link to comment
InAtTheDeepEnd Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, Murphych said: I MIGHT be in on this after all, maybe DO IT 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Murphs_Reef Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, InAtTheDeepEnd said: DO IT I am thinking about what to use, it needs to be slick and fit into the kitchen design. So won't be a £20 bucket... Then power needs to be thought about... No cables running around the place.. 3 Quote Link to comment
silent1mezzo Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I really want to do a 1g cube with a 8 gallon sump 🤣 5 1 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Murphych said: it needs to be slick and fit into the kitchen design Barm 20L Potted Beverage Dispenser with Glass Lid and Leak-Free Faucet, Clear You'd have to change out the copper spigot. 3 Quote Link to comment
PeterU Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, silent1mezzo said: I really want to do a 1g cube with a 8 gallon sump 🤣 Kind of overboard on the sump. Maybe cut it down to a 4. Quote Link to comment
PeterU Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, seabass said: Barm 20L Potted Beverage Dispenser with Glass Lid and Leak-Free Faucet, Clear You'd have to change out the copper faucet. It's available with a stainless spigot as well. 3 Quote Link to comment
silent1mezzo Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, PeterU said: Kind of overboard on the sump. Maybe cut it down to a 4. But then I can't say my sump is 8x larger than the display. There's probably only a handful of people in the world that can say that. 2 5 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 13 hours ago, PeterU said: It's available with a stainless spigot as well. Stainless would be 100% better (but even stainless can rust in saltwater). 15 hours ago, Murphych said: No cables running around the place.. Instead of the spigot, I was kind thinking about a PVC pipe and UNISEAL bulkhead to run the cables through the opening. You could cut the plugs off of the heater and pump and run them through the PVC pipe, then fill the pipe full of silicone to make it watertight, and install the pipe through the bulkhead. Finally, reattach the plug with an electrical connector extender or new plug (customizing the cord lengths to keep it nice an clean looking). Or even a waterproof junction box of some sort; maybe like the following: Electricity and water don't mix. I'm not a electrician, so consider these possibilities accordingly. 3 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 Another option to the spigot might be to run an airline and temperature probe through the opening in the same fashion as above. And maybe use a heat pad for a fermenter. 1 Quote Link to comment
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