atoll Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Do you have any shrimp in your tank? Yes. I have peps Link to comment
CronicReefer Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Do you have any shrimp in your tank? I keep a reef lobster in mine and he doesn't seem to be affected in any way. The oxydator is actually right outside his front door. Link to comment
Rehype Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yes. I have peps I keep a reef lobster in mine and he doesn't seem to be affected in any way. The oxydator is actually right outside his front door. Thanks for responding. Any reason why you dont keep your oxydators in the sump? Link to comment
atoll Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 I keep a reef lobster in mine and he doesn't seem to be affected in any way. The oxydator is actually right outside his front door. Xenia which is reported to be sensitive to peroxide in the aquarium grows fine and pulses away in my tank. My clump is above and to the right of my Oxydator. I currently have 9% peroxide with 2 catalysts in my model "A" and there is not negative reaction from the Xenia at all. Thanks for responding. Any reason why you dont keep your oxydators in the sump? I have tried it in the sump but although it works OK there it works better in the tank itself.I find Link to comment
Rehype Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Xenia which is reported to be sensitive to peroxide in the aquarium grows fine and pulses away in my tank. My clump is above and to the right of my Oxydator. I currently have 9% peroxide with 2 catalysts in my model "A" and there is not negative reaction from the Xenia at all. I have tried it in the sump but although it works OK there it works better in the tank itself.I find When it was in your sump was it right in front of the return pump? Link to comment
brandon429 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 xenia can initially stress due to starting a drip, like a new algae battle but usually adapt and reopen Link to comment
Maximus831 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 A little update of sorts. I've had my large Oxydator in my 75g tank for a week now and have noticed a bit more water clarity. I was running 7% solution and just increased it to 9% today. The bottle was about half gone after a week so I estimate it will take 2 weeks for it to totally drain out. I am using 2 catalysts btw. I put the Oxydator in front of the tank so I can observe the unit. I have noticed tiny bubbles being streamed out of the unit, with the occasional large bubble coming out every 15-20 seconds. It is definitely dosing peroxide over the entire week. I will continue to monitor it for another week and then move it to the rear of the tank or the overflow chamber after I am satisfied with it. So far so good. The unit is mere inches away from a rose bta and a few acro colonies and it has had zero negative effect on them, so that is great news. We will see what the 9% solution does to the tank in the coming week. Link to comment
CronicReefer Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Thanks for responding. Any reason why you dont keep your oxydators in the sump? Don't own a sump and it wouldn't fit in my canister filter. Link to comment
atoll Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 My Oxydator was in my tank from day one. The Xenia was introduced a few weeks ago and its never reacted negatively from the day it went in the tank. Just saying. Tibbys has an problem with his Oxydator affecting his Xenia however.when in the sump the Oxydator was in the pump chamber. Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 My sexy shrimp has no problem with the oxydator. The snails don't either. So far it's really only the xenia and that's probably because I have a low enough peroxide concentration such that it's more dripping out into the tank rather than the catalyst efficiently catalyzing the peroxid ein the jar to push out more to catalyze properly with the ceramic dish. For the sump idea - my only concern with using it in the sump is that the oxygenation of the water may change as the water is pushed from the sump into the display. The gas exchange of the water is probably too fast in that instance to really allow the supersaturation to have an effect on anything in the display. I could be wrong, but it would likely do a better job IN the actual display than in the sump. Link to comment
Marc.The.Shark Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Small update, it's been 3 days since water change/glass cleaning & I have less algae on the glass. Normally it was getting noticeable at the 2 day mark and needed cleaning at 3 days. I can barely see any now at the 3 day mark. Mini is getting low on the 4.9% solution provided with the unit. I was going to add the other catylst when I added more H2O2, but now that I'm seeing some improvement, im going to let it ride as is & just refill the container tomorrow & see how it goes. Link to comment
atoll Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Your not long Tibbsy. That is exactly why I prefer my Oxydator's in tank. They are more efficenct in tank as I have noticed. However if for some reason you can't or don't want it in tank then in the sump will still work just not as well. Sump returns being near the tanks surface is the reason for a lesser performance as I suspect more of the oxygen is gassed off with the agitation caused. Link to comment
Marc.The.Shark Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Your not long Tibbsy. That is exactly why I prefer my Oxydator's in tank. They are more efficenct in tank as I have noticed. However if for some reason you can't or don't want it in tank then in the sump will still work just not as well. Sump returns being near the tanks surface is the reason for a lesser performance as I suspect more of the oxygen is gassed off with the agitation caused. I have split returns on a SCWD, one is near the surface & one is mid water column. My tank is 16" deep. The returns switch about every 30 seconds for random flow. Again, I have the Oxydator in the 1st chamber of my sump after the filter sock, no room in the return chamber as my sump is small & pump is big to account for head loss (3ft) & SCWD loss. But again, my algae problem wasn't huge, just more of an eyesore. The only thing I'm worried about is the whitening of my cheato, this has gotten slightly worse as well as the Mini is in the chamber before it. Not alarming yet, but I'll keep an eye on it for another H2O2 cycle. Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Day 4: Lot of stingy algae chunking off and floating around tank. Container about 1/2 full. Link to comment
atoll Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Assume that's dying algae then Chris? Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Assume that's dying algae then Chris? Oh yeah. I had the same results when I was mass peroxide dosing with 3% The tank is really bubbly. Lots of microbubbles coming in from return now. Of coating all my GHA and cyano Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Day 6: Still loads of stringy algae in tank. Had to refill the oxydator. There was about an 1/8" left in the bottle. Link to comment
atoll Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Is there much algae left now Chris? Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Is there much algae left now Chris? yeah, cyano I sucked off sand is came back. GHA is still there. I'll just keep going with it.. The specs say the container is 1/8 liter. 120 ml. That means I was dosing nearly 20ml a day over the 6 days.....LOL I thought my 10ml a day treatment was a lot in my previous use of peroxide for algae treatment Link to comment
atoll Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Keep at it and keeo removing the algae until the oxydator has nutrilised most of the organics. Sometimes it happens quickly other times a number of weeks. However all the time the oxydator is working away for you. Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Keep at it and keeo removing the algae until the oxydator has nutrilised most of the organics. Sometimes it happens quickly other times a number of weeks. However all the time the oxydator is working away for you. yeah. I'm sure it will take some time. Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 sort of a disturbing occurrence over the last two days. I refilled it Saturday and checked it yesterday and it was about 1/2" down. Today it's about 1/2 empty and my clove polyps are pissed off. It has basically dosed like 50ml in two days. Doing a WC today anyways to suck out the stringy algae so that might help alleviate some stress on the clove polyps. I checked the unit and it seems to be assembled correctly. Not sure what to think about this, . Link to comment
atoll Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 sort of a disturbing occurrence over the last two days. I refilled it Saturday and checked it yesterday and it was about 1/2" down. Today it's about 1/2 empty and my clove polyps are pissed off. It has basically dosed like 50ml in two days. Doing a WC today anyways to suck out the stringy algae so that might help alleviate some stress on the clove polyps. I checked the unit and it seems to be assembled correctly. Not sure what to think about this, . If you are using the model "D" then you have to be very careful the cap/lid is firmly on if the model "A" then the orange plug needs to be fully turned against its stop to ensure there is no leak of peroxide. Albert had a similar issue with his model "D" I believe. Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Xena still unhappy and algae has gotten worse. I resorted to breaking off the whole chunk of rock with the 2 types (looked like hair or bryopsis; the other is calupera). Used a pocket knife to cut the remaining bits off and scrape the whole area removing coralline and macro algae alike. Hopefully this will keep it at bay. I've taken my oxydator out for the time being until I can gain access to higher peroxide as it doesn't seem to be doing anything positive, possibly negative, in my tank thus far. Link to comment
Chrisl1976 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Its the midrange D I believe Link to comment
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