fredfish01 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Because of the significant cost I've decided that I probably won't go forward with it. If there is more interest, I can see what I can do, but for now it's been shelved. I can understand that. At $30 per cluster, thats not bad as you are approximately replacing one Lumia 5.2 with 4 of these, but that cost probably doesn't include the development costs. $50 is getting up there. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 I can understand that. At $30 per cluster, thats not bad as you are approximately replacing one Lumia 5.2 with 4 of these, but that cost probably doesn't include the development costs. $50 is getting up there. Right, it does not include any (estimated) costs other than LEDs and final PCB, doesn't include prototyping, mounting, etc. Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Let me just butt in here real quick sorry, I know they don't have any usable optics for the K's. I wonder if I can get away with not running any optics on any of my LEDs. I mean I could run them on the violets, whites and limes(if I choose to add them). But I'd be lacking optics on the royal blues, until they(if they do) design an appropriate optic for the K. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 I'm not running any optics on this array and get over 100 PAR on the sandbed at 22" away, and it does not have nearly the power that yours will. (two clusters of this) Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Awesome. I think I am going to take the lime dive with you and see how I like it. Worse comes to worse I can just leave them off if I hate them. I think they add a unique look. Link to comment
fredfish01 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Right, it does not include any (estimated) costs other than LEDs and final PCB, doesn't include prototyping, mounting, etc. Sigh. I know approximately what type of cluster I want and I know the price point I'd like to hit, but the two don't seem to match up well. You know, that makers heatsink looks like one heck of a good prototyping heatsink in that it is easy (aside from all the re-soldering) to swap out leds and change layouts. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Sigh. I know approximately what type of cluster I want and I know the price point I'd like to hit, but the two don't seem to match up well. You know, that makers heatsink looks like one heck of a good prototyping heatsink in that it is easy (aside from all the re-soldering) to swap out leds and change layouts. Yup, that's why I keep a bunch of them close by lol Link to comment
fredfish01 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm not running any optics on this array and get over 100 PAR on the sandbed at 22" away, and it does not have nearly the power that yours will. (two clusters of this) What all do you have in that array? Looks like maybe limes in the middle row and a PC amber and a red in the bottom. Can't tell what the others are. Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 What all do you have in that array? Looks like maybe limes in the middle row and a PC amber and a red in the bottom. Can't tell what the others are. He has that listed on the Lime LED thread. http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/346477-luxeon-rebel-es-lime-pics-and-par/ Link to comment
fredfish01 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 He has that listed on the Lime LED thread. http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/346477-luxeon-rebel-es-lime-pics-and-par/ Doh! Link to comment
frankdontsurf Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I don't know what that strip is....... Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 I don't know what that strip is....... The strip is what holds ten PCB together when they come from the factory. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Two lime, one cyan and two blue, one red. The blue I might be switching to the blue chips that Dave uses in his fixtures, they are very low-nm blues. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Actually, I just tested the 3ups I got from Steves - the blue chips don't have the greenish tint that the last few batches did. I've got them right next to a bunch of royals and some cyan and I can barely tell the difference between the royals and the blue (which is how it should be). This makes this a TON easier. After figuring that out, I began assembling everything to start epoxying to the heatsinks - but unfortunately, I cannot continue right now. The stars that the royal blue M from LEDgroupbuy have some metal burs on the outer edges of the bottom of them that hold them up off the heatsink. It is from where the stars are stamped out and connected to each other (just bend/snap to break them apart). I'm going to have to get them off before I can continue. Grrrr... Link to comment
HM3105 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Actually, I just tested the 3ups I got from Steves - the blue chips don't have the greenish tint that the last few batches did. I've got them right next to a bunch of royals and some cyan and I can barely tell the difference between the royals and the blue (which is how it should be). This makes this a TON easier. After figuring that out, I began assembling everything to start epoxying to the heatsinks - but unfortunately, I cannot continue right now. The stars that the royal blue M from LEDgroupbuy have some metal burs on the outer edges of the bottom of them that hold them up off the heatsink. It is from where the stars are stamped out and connected to each other (just bend/snap to break them apart). I'm going to have to get them off before I can continue. Grrrr... You mean to tell me I just read through 10 pages of LED greatness and this is the midseason finale? I don't think I can handle the suspense, its worse then waiting for TWD to return!! but seriously, thank you for sharing all of this. Its been very informative! Link to comment
Horerczy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Oh good i can use staves blues then. Link to comment
jolee0722 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hurray. He finally got new blues. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 You mean to tell me I just read through 10 pages of LED greatness and this is the midseason finale? I don't think I can handle the suspense, its worse then waiting for TWD to return!! but seriously, thank you for sharing all of this. Its been very informative! LOL I'm heading over to my grandparent's house now to use their grinder, will make it quick and easy - but I probably won't be able to work on this at all today, I'll be working on gettign a flower box cut and put together and filled with dirt. Got a lot of work ahead of me lol. Link to comment
bdevillier19 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Something tells me this flower box is going to be made of extra heatsinks, lit by the plethora of extra LEDs you have around, watered by an apex control, and the water chilled by an extra over clocked PC in the closet. You probably have LEDs laying around like people do pocket change. Lol. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 I did find one in the couch cushions one time lol Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Not that I don't appreciate everything all of our service men and woman past and present have done for us, I really wish the mail was running tomorrow, I really want my LED stuff lol. Link to comment
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