Euphyllia Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I like the name "rotten tomato"... It's silly and something different. They look awesome, and if my tanks weren't full, I'd buy one! Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 I like the name "rotten tomato"... It's silly and something different. They look awesome, and if my tanks weren't full, I'd buy one! It is what it is It has caught on, people will like it and people won't like it. I am a little disapointed that the conversation turned into what the name should be rather than the scientific discussion as to why this frenatus turned all black. Link to comment
Luckedout Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I would think that this unique coloration is simply a genetic trait that crops up once in a while, but in really really low numbers. Tomato's do have quite a bit of dark pigmentation, so it's not too far fetched to say that a mild genetic mutation caused the dark coloring to be dominant. Similar to how the different colored clowns came to be (picasso's, snowflake, etc)... a color mutation that was selected and bred to be more common. It's lucky that it happened with a breeder, because rather than being a unique clown that goes unnoticed at Petco, it's has the chance of being a unique strain of tomato clown. Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Now we have a discussion!!! I would think that this unique coloration is simply a genetic trait that crops up once in a while, but in really really low numbers. I honestly hope that is the case, it would be a shame to have only one. It is a lot less stressful to breed them when you have more than one type of fish. Look at the lightning maroon situation with Matt Pedersen, I can't even imagine the pressures he is feeling knowing there is only one. Tomato's do have quite a bit of dark pigmentation, so it's not too far fetched to say that a mild genetic mutation caused the dark coloring to be dominant. Similar to how the different colored clowns came to be (picasso's, snowflake, etc)... a color mutation that was selected and bred to be more common. I agree, the interesting part is no red at all. Which leads me to wonder if it is melanistic (like a black panther or black squirrel). It's lucky that it happened with a breeder, because rather than being a unique clown that goes unnoticed at Petco, it's has the chance of being a unique strain of tomato clown. Let's hope so. Poor mans McCullochi...only rarer and isn't going to be stressed with our normal tank temperatures. Link to comment
Luckedout Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I honestly hope that is the case, it would be a shame to have only one. It is a lot less stressful to breed them when you have more than one type of fish. Look at the lightning maroon situation with Matt Pedersen, I can't even imagine the pressures he is feeling knowing there is only one. I think you are in a different situation than the lightning maroon clown. I think you are right that it is more melanistic, therefore I think that it will be easier to replicate. Link to comment
smitty_1280 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I honestly hope that is the case, it would be a shame to have only one. It is a lot less stressful to breed them when you have more than one type of fish. Look at the lightning maroon situation with Matt Pedersen, I can't even imagine the pressures he is feeling knowing there is only one. From what I have read about the Lightning Maroon, there is more then one. They are native to Papua New Guinea (PNG). "The PNG lightning maroon clownfish was collected by a local fisher from Fishermans Island, which is located just off the capital city of Papua New Guinea. The fisher, Steven Paul, had been trained in sustainable collection techniques by the SEASMART Program, which is the joint effort of the PNG National Fisheries Authority (NFA) and the Virginia-based EcoEZ Inc. Since 2008, the SEASMART Program has been working hand-in-hand with PNG’s National, Provincial and local governments to efficiently develop a sustainable, equitable and profitable marine aquarium trade throughout the country. This is not the first fish Blue Zoo has sold from Papua New Guinea, but it is the first one to garner so much attention." source: http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/resources.asp?show=416 Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/all-b...ownfish-spotted ^^^^^Check it out!!!! Link to comment
mrbigshot Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 From what I have read about the Lightning Maroon, there is more then one. They are native to Papua New Guinea (PNG). your right, there are two of them. that's all that have ever been collected. the first one no one knows what happened to it. the second one matt has. pretty fish, much better looking in person imho. Link to comment
doppelganger Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 wow awesome! Congratulations! Link to comment
smitty_1280 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/all-b...ownfish-spotted ^^^^^Check it out!!!! Very cool. You have to be super excited! Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Update!!!! We have some more Rotten Tomatos! In a batch that is currently 46dph, we have two..possibly three that are changing! So, now we can show pictures of the three color stages of a Rotten Tomato. Link to comment
d'Espresso Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Wow, those RT are sweet looking! Can't wait to see more in the near future and to have a pair later on. Keep up the great awesome work! Happy new year! Link to comment
smitty_1280 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 That is awesome. Very exciting. Link to comment
Luckedout Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 You sure you want to keep them? I would take a pair! Link to comment
altolamprologus Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Update!!!! We have some more Rotten Tomatos! In a batch that is currently 46dph, we have two..possibly three that are changing! So, now we can show pictures of the three color stages of a Rotten Tomato. Congrats!! It definitely seems like both parents are carrying a recessive gene-how lucky is that?? I can't wait to see what the offspring of the RTs look like. Link to comment
Eileen Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Nice job, Jonathan! I can't wait to see how they mature! Keep us posted!! Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Here are some updates of our Dragonet project. Raising these dragonets has been such a rewarding challenge!! Green Mandarin Dragonet (S. splendidus) and Ocellated Dragonet (S. ocellatus) at 45dph Ocellated Dragonet (S. ocellatus) at 45dph Ocellated Dragonet (S. ocellatus) at 90dph Green Mandarin Dragonet (S. splendidus) at 90dph Link to comment
Eileen Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 LOVE that last one!!! I may consider breaking my self-imposed "no more new fish" rule for one of those adorable little guys! What are they eating now? Link to comment
smitty_1280 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Those are looking really nice. Great job. Link to comment
Manaz101 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Here are some updates of our Dragonet project. Raising these dragonets has been such a rewarding challenge!! Green Mandarin Dragonet (S. splendidus) and Ocellated Dragonet (S. ocellatus) at 45dph Ocellated Dragonet (S. ocellatus) at 45dph Ocellated Dragonet (S. ocellatus) at 90dph Green Mandarin Dragonet (S. splendidus) at 90dph THESE LOOK SO BADASS!!! Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 THESE LOOK SO BADASS!!! Thanks!!! Only downsize to dragonets is once they reach a certain age, their growth rate slowns waaayyy down. The scooter dragonets grow much faster than the green mandarins. Link to comment
d'Espresso Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Very nice on the gobies! Good news: I am moving to Florida close to you soon about 1hour 1/2 drive. Not to bad lol. Link to comment
FishEyeAquaculture Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Good news: I am moving to Florida close to you soon about 1hour 1/2 drive. Not to bad lol. Very cool!!! Are you moving down here for work and/or school? Link to comment
d'Espresso Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I move down because of your s'mores! Lol no I moved down because my wife had graduated from college and found a job in orlando hospital. I haven't found a job yet but will be looking sooner as we get settle down and look for apt. or house to rent. Not sure of any area yet but planning and looking around north of Orlando area. Well had to break down the tank but I have kept the paired s'mores I got from u, I cannot keep the other one bully the other one. I don't think they are a pair because if the big bully beats the other one my other fish like angel fish and basslet attach it to so now I have to put the little guy in a separate container. Its funny, I feed the little guy only to fatten the s'more up but he is nice and share food for his fellow tank mates. Lol what can I do to stop the violence? They only fight when the lights are turn on. Link to comment
spazizz Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Every thing Ive seen here is amazing especially the green mandarins, my favorite fish. Link to comment
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