Maeda Posted October 19, 2010 Author Share Posted October 19, 2010 Lets compare to the model shall we? Looks about right. Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 24, 2010 Author Share Posted October 24, 2010 The floor in this spot is way way off level. :/ http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...p;#entry3061639 Help a brother out. Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 So the floor isn't wacky, its my stand. It started to warp and twist due to the top 2x6's not being dried properly. Try try again.... The skeleton frame Exploded diagram The sump area. This time around im going to build it out of much shorter pieces to minimize movement. This stand should also be a much much more stable design. Link to comment
phi delt reefer Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Schweeet sketchup work man... very jealous of your skill For the part that your tank sits on, make sure you have a horizontal support every 12" to 16". This would mimic the minimum code used in flooring joists which are rated for holding an entire level of a house. I see that you have one over a four foot span which is a 24" span. See if you lumber yard has ASPEN 2x6s. They are a little more expensive than the spruce stuff but they appeared much straighter when I had a looked at them. Your other option is going to a wood worker and having them plane them slightly for you to compensate for any bowing. Some might even have old barn lumber that they can plane into a width/thickness you need. When you get your lumber, let it sit in your house for a couple weeks so it warps and bends according to you in house environment. That way when you rebuild, your wood will pretty much be as warped as its going to be while the stand remains in your home. Framing nails are stronger than deck screws from what i have heard, though I hate using a hammer and used screws in mine anyways but I just have a 35ish gallon tank . Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 For the part that your tank sits on, make sure you have a horizontal support every 12" to 16". This would mimic the minimum code used in flooring joists which are rated for holding an entire level of a house. I see that you have one over a four foot span which is a 24" span. I never thought to apply the floor joist code. Good looking out. I'll add a few more supports. Also, I have this amazinggggggggg gas powered, cordless framing nailer. It shoots GIANT framing nails. I bought it to frame up my walls, and some of my roof. You can't live without this thing. Once everything on the cut list is checked off, boom-boom-boom, its all framed out (as long as you can hold everything square). Yah, I made the mistake of doing this all outside when it was humid and damp, and then when it came inside it just twisted to hell. It was a common sense failure on my part. I'm not sure if we can get aspen in socal, but i'll hunt around. I'm so pissed this time i'm going to see if a buddy of mine can joint/plane all my boards. I have to switch my brain back into wood-worker mode. I've been in rough-carpenter mode for too many months. Last stand I also built out of 100% left overs, so I guess it's expected I have to get serious and actually buy some real wood. I just wish I didn't have to looks nice Thank you. I only hope the real thing looks as nice as the computer models. Link to comment
sayn3ver Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Might want to consider building the stand out of man-made materials then skin it if going for sleek modern look. Engineered beams, plywood, etc then epoxy and sand smooth, prime and top coat (sprayed automotive finish) or go with a glued on laminate. If not, there was a previous suggestion of acclimation then processing (jointer and surface planer). I personally have a goal of making one of my future tank stands in the japanese fashion (hand cut joinery for all joints). I really like building things and want to get into the trade (possibly finish carpentry or cabinet making). I don't just want a job but I want to learn a skill or trade. Done college (ba) in december then will be on the look. Btw, I enjoyed your first go around and am looking forward to this build. Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 28, 2010 Author Share Posted October 28, 2010 Might want to consider building the stand out of man-made materials then skin it if going for sleek modern look.Engineered beams, plywood, etc then epoxy and sand smooth, prime and top coat (sprayed automotive finish) or go with a glued on laminate. Engineered beams? what are those? EDIT: Like plywood I beams right? I'm using dimensional lumber and plywood because it's cheap, and easy to get. Link to comment
sayn3ver Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Engineered beams? what are those?EDIT: Like plywood I beams right? I'm using dimensional lumber and plywood because it's cheap, and easy to get. I know. I went the same route on my current stand build. Nothing wrong with it. But there seemed to be a conversation going on about material choices. haha. not to mention the issues with warping and twisting you had. Engineered lumber is suppose to minimize that. You have a great eye and really liked the look of your "H" style stand last time. Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 I know. I went the same route on my current stand build. Nothing wrong with it. But there seemed to be a conversation going on about material choices. haha. not to mention the issues with warping and twisting you had. Engineered lumber is suppose to minimize that. You have a great eye and really liked the look of your "H" style stand last time. Thanks. I looked but I couldn't find any in my immediate area. I found a bunch of really neat composite decking material. --------------------- Orange Box kiln dried 2x4s are about all I could find without going too far (I don't drive). I spent a good hour picking out 10 of the straightest pieces. Chop chop chop. I sanded down the edges and lightly sanded the faces to avoid splinters. Almost there.... I have these amazing 60" K-body clamps that work awesome for clamping stuff. I also have this amazing cordless gas framing nailer (aka the NAAAIIILLLGUN(nsfw)) that shoots 3.5" nails. Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang. A few corner braces to join the floor of the stand to the back and sides. Dry fitting the separate pieces to check how level they'll be if I assembled right now... This is the section I did in this post... ..see the resemblance? Out with the old and in with the new. Tomorrow i'll build the 2nd section and start skinning these frames. Link to comment
Uhuru Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Nice. You make it look easy. Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Nice. You make it look easy. SO DO YOU. We need to combine powers or something. Hows the NPS tank? Link to comment
Uhuru Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Its going good, but I won't be adding any new corals for a while since I have no money. I spend about $10/wk just on salt. I think we can combine powers in the future since I'm planning to move back to socal in about 1.5 years. Link to comment
Maeda Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 I think we can combine powers in the future since I'm planning to move back to socal in about 1.5 years. I will be waiting ---------------------- Putting down the floor.. Things went a little slower then I thought they would. I secured everything, and squared it all up. I added the back and the floor, and ran out of daylight. I guess i'll finish skinning this part of the stand and start framing out the other part tomarrow. Link to comment
Maeda Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Rounded over some of the edges, and finished skinning the insides. Link to comment
Lawnman Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Looking good. Has Ennis been over to help?LOL Link to comment
Maeda Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 Looking good. Has Ennis been over to help?LOL This flew over my head. Who's Ennis? Edit: I got it! NO that bastard is honeymooning or something Ennis is ennis, because the scnrs irc nerds have been using the first letter of a person's name to distinguish them, but we have 3 D's. Link to comment
Lawnman Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Haha He has it pretty rough. This flew over my head. Who's Ennis? Edit: I got it! NO that bastard is honeymooning or something Ennis is ennis, because the scnrs irc nerds have been using the first letter of a person's name to distinguish them, but we have 3 D's. I just recall him saying his name was Dennis but you call him Ennis LMAO Link to comment
Maeda Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Shot with my new GF1 + 20mm f/1.7 Link to comment
pismo_reefer Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 HOLYCHIT!!!!!!!! Link to comment
Maeda Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 We have connection of the sump section and the tank section. More to come... Link to comment
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