spanko Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I think Mitch is taking this thread down a very dark road.... Oh, I think this thread has been on that road since the beginning. I think it may now be blazing new trails. Just let me say this..................... IBTL Link to comment
MitchReef Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Oh, I think this thread has been on that road since the beginning. I think it may now be blazing new trails. Just let me say this..................... IBTL Really.....I mean did mrnugget READ this thread....I think it's more like a series of VERY DARK endless one-way streets, endin up at a ONE-WAY DEAD END alley!!!! Link to comment
mrnugget Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Really.....I mean did mrnugget READ this thread....I think it's more like a series of VERY DARK endless one-way streets, endin up at a ONE-WAY DEAD END alley!!!! Could be my mistake.... up until now, there's been largely a... softer... touch to the advice. I was reading yours as heading up what typically would be a one-way alley - headed the other direction. If I misread, my apologies, and carry on. Link to comment
Militant Jurist Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 IBTL I think we're way past the point where that would happen. Like StevieT's tank, the thread is maturing. It's all grown up now! I think communication is key to your relationship with that tank, but sometimes it takes some whispered sweet nothings to do the trick. And if that doesn't, play some Barry White. Works every time to get the water wet. Link to comment
Irushin Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 A tank should not feel wet because of the protection you should always be wearing, unless during one of your fragging sessions the dremel slipped. Link to comment
StevieT Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 A tank should not feel wet because of the protection you should always be wearing, unless during one of your fragging sessions the dremel slipped. I thought protection was the tanks responsibility. Either way, I did a water change this morning after missing out on one for three weeks. Possibly my water was getting old and dried out, maybe the fish drank it all. Link to comment
spanko Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I thought protection was the tanks responsibility. Link to comment
Militant Jurist Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 A tank should not feel wet because of the protection you should always be wearing, unless during one of your fragging sessions the dremel slipped. I don't know about always. But yeah, don't you just hate it when the dremel slips during a fragging. Link to comment
mrnugget Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 But yeah, don't you just hate it when the dremel slips during a fragging. I know the tank hates it..... Link to comment
Militant Jurist Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I know the tank hates it..... Well, as the dremel operator, I know I don't want unintended little corals resulting from the slip. Link to comment
PBUEHH Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 yeah, eve ONE POLYP can result in a new mother colony... do you have room for frags in a reef save invirement? like i would let my frag hand out with a parrot fish... Link to comment
inTank Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 my tank is soaking wet Noob Link to comment
StevieT Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 my tank is soaking wet Noob go back in hiding idiot Link to comment
mrnugget Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 go back in hiding idiot This is like Steve talking to himself? Has he finally cracked up? Link to comment
PBUEHH Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 considering he started this thread, id say he is the sanest of us all. Link to comment
phishroom Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 This is like Steve talking to himself? Has he finally cracked up? Perhaps it's more like Steve keeping in touch with himself. Sometimes this type of personal conversation can improve wetness in or around the tank. Steve, have you tried a large powerhead to increase wetness? I've got a zoomed powerhead that oscillates back and forth for wave-like motion. I think the increased randomness of the water movement in and out makes my tank wetter, faster. Link to comment
Irushin Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 There are many different types of products developed not only for agriculture but many other industries that need to get the most out of their water's wetting abilities, that will break down the surface tension and make the water "wetter". These are called by many names, such as: Adjuvants Extenders Spreaders Spreaderstickers Surfactants Wetting agents etc. http://www.spraytec.com/24/surfactants-making-water-wetter/ Reducing surface tension...I think washing detergent does this like Tide. It may be a good idea to contact http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Purigen.html and ask them to come up with a reef safe water wetter. Link to comment
Sac_State Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 As mentioned above, you just need to add more dish detergent to your tank... Making Water Wetter Water is a polar molecule: it has both positive and negative ends. When these ends are linked by an electrical charge, a chain forms and droplets occur. This is called Hydrogen Bonding and is the cause of surface tension. Mind you, this is not the tension of the surface that the droplet is to land on, but the tension on the outer surface of the actual droplet that, in effect, holds it together and keeps it from collapsing and spreading on the surface it has landed. Surfactants overcome the effects of beading or surface tension. The surfactant molecule has one end that is soluble in oily or waxy substances, and a second that is water soluble. When a surfactant is added to water and oil, its molecules align themselves at the appropriate ends of the interface and pull the layers together, reducing the beading, or surface tension. Surfactants within commercial dishwashing detergent's can actually "make water wetter" but are susceptible to washoff. Link to comment
StevieT Posted October 18, 2008 Author Share Posted October 18, 2008 now all my fish and coralz are dead, thanks for the sudgestion on the soap jerk Link to comment
PBUEHH Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 lolz, that sux! Thread of the Year! Link to comment
Militant Jurist Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 now all my fish and coralz are dead, thanks for the sudgestion on the soap jerk That's really strange... I always thought that cleanliness was next to godliness! Link to comment
vangvace Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 That's really strange... I always thought that cleanliness was next to godliness! but a clean tank will dry out a tank in no time. Link to comment
eliboy Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 That's really strange... I always thought that cleanliness was next to godliness! In their dead state, the fish and corals will achieve a godlike state. Start praying to your new tank-saints so that they will make your water wetter. Link to comment
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