Kijho Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Oh man guys I came home and my clowns are battling it out to the death.. I have to leave my house in 5 mins for the evening, I went to feed my clowns and noticed the boys fins are all messedup and the girl was "spasming" at him and going after him and nipping big time I ran out bought a in-tank breeding box and even the smallest one was too big but I tried to make it work and I couldn't catch them at all they're SO fast and kept going underneath the rock.. impossible. Then they'd both get under the rock and begin fighting again.. ugh. So upset now I really hope they sort it out and are okay when I come back home.. I have to run out the door now Link to comment
lecroj Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 If the one with the "growth" on his fin is the smaller one then it sounds like that was a bite that is trying to heal. Hopefully they will be ok. Ocellaris clowns aren't usually that aggressive. Link to comment
Reefkid88 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Damn man,you're having problem after problem huh ? It could be having a pair of clown in such close quartets ones getting aggressive,idk. I'd get rid of the meaner one or else your end up losing the messed up one. As for the rocks,like Ninja said use saltwater or distilled. Make things easier on yourself l. Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I have to get my onyx clown out of my 12 gallons this weekend. The snowflake been brutal on him. I had the snowflake in a breeder box for a few days, but it only helped a little. 2 days after snowflake was released, he went to town on the onyx again. So now I have to somehow catch the onyx and put him back into the spec. And at the same time, take the blue damsel out of the spec and back into the 12 gallon. I wonder why your pair suddenly turned on each other. I thought they were buddies? Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 for the euphlia can you explain a little Bette. Did a branches flesh come of or just like one or two tentacles. Sorry about the clowns they could be sorting out dominance But maybe not xD Link to comment
Tropi Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hope your clowns sort things out with out any damage. I finally got sick of getting rid of my aiptasia so got a peppermint shrimp, he's acclimating right now but is kind of small, hopefully he's hungry and doesn't cause any trouble. Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Day 104: Here's a video of the clowns doing some weird stuff, didn't catch them nipping but at one point my larger clown goes to nip my smaller clown but doesn't make contact.. Here you can see where the one head just "came out" of it's skeleton.. the part that is left looks very loosely connected almost like a loose tooth in the socket/root of the gums??.. weird way to explain it lol Here's where it ended up... ugh You can see his poor fins are somewhat shredded on the top This is the smaller clown, the bigger doesn't have any mangled fins.. Here's the bigger clown. You can see nice smooth fins - however, this is the clown with the what we believe is a benign ? Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Now my frogspawn hasn't opened up - despite a nice WC yesterday. Checking params later but everything else in my tank is looking fine... I've been thinking about it here for a bit and the ONE thing I've done in the past weeks before I noticed things starting to go down a bit - was adding the surface skimmer. Thought it was a good idea, however .. I don't have the hole in the false wall patched !! I'm thinking now, perhaps the skimmer (because my water evaps so fast) gets low and therefor water isn't going thru the entire filter process and instead going thru the bottom hole more rapid and skipping filtration entirely? Perhaps this is causing some issues.... Taking the skimmer out and will update as the week goes... Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 ... Weird it looks like typical bonding behaviour but i thought they already established this. Also the little scar/ fin growth isn't called "a benign" it's described as benign so it described as harmless. Sorry for that when I was explaining it earlier. Weird with the decline in the hammer, did u remove the little dropped head? Can u tell is the dropped section of hammer attached to the rock or is it free moving, it is maybe possible ( don't know if it can do this) that it's lodged into a hole and could grow. If it isn't attached take it outta the water and give it a sniff, if it smells like nothing really it should be fine but if it smells slightly rotten or fishy it's die and u will want to take it out immediately as it could rot and spread its flesh into a cloudy gunk all over your tank,. Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 So.... Frogspawn hasn't opened at all today. It's fully retracted within the skeleton... However - All of my Acans are looking nice and plump. Ricordias looking nice and spread (Except my 1st ric, it's gotten tiny lately) and my zoa's beginning to grow/expand down the side of the frag plug and I can see slowly moving towards growing on the actual rock.. Hmm... Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Frogspawn hasn't opened at all today. It's fully retracted within the skeleton... Watch for a poop coming up, ive had things shrink up and look rough, just to find out there constipated. Not sure if this is normal in euphillia, but it is in many other LPS Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Watch for a poop coming up, ive had things shrink up and look rough, just to find out there constipated. Not sure if this is normal in euphillia, but it is in many other LPS GA!! Your signature looks so awesome!! Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 GA!! Your signature looks so awesome!! Thanks man! I needed to spice it up Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Weird everything was doing rally well especially the euphylia. The frog is the purpleish one right Pictures Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Day 106 Things have been a bit of a roller-coaster lately.. my hermit crabs have been munching lots of green stuff though which is good.. emerald crab hasn't been paying much attention to the bubble algae. Luckily bubble is just a nuisance and isn't technically "dangerous." Eventually I'll get around to peroxiding' the rocks.. but I think the hermits may even be nibbling on some of the smaller bubbles which is good... https://flic.kr/p/on46wM'>https://flic.kr/p/on46wM'>IMG_2134 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr Ph: 8.0 Ammonia: 0ppm Nitrite: 0ppm Nitrate: < 10ppm Kh/Alk: 160ppm Calcium: 450 mg Salt: 1.026 Temp: 76-78*F https://flic.kr/p/oighCY'>https://flic.kr/p/oighCY'>IMG_2136 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr What I believe is my boy clownfish. You can see on the top of his body/ fins he's got some nips from the larger (female I believe) clownfish. Poor guy. They've calmed down today thankfully.. https://flic.kr/p/ok6AoJ'>https://flic.kr/p/ok6AoJ'>IMG_2128 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr Another shot.. https://flic.kr/p/on47np'>https://flic.kr/p/on47np'>IMG_2116 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr My Acans are super plump and have been getting some mysis during feedings... https://flic.kr/p/oki5cD'>https://flic.kr/p/oki5cD'>IMG_2108 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr And here's my "shrinking" hammer with my Goby peeking in the corner.. https://flic.kr/p/on48BZ'>https://flic.kr/p/on48BZ'>IMG_2106 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr Frogspawn which didn't seem to open at all today... ? https://flic.kr/p/o3NyiX'>https://flic.kr/p/o3NyiX'>IMG_2105 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr Here's a FTS from June 10th (Just over a month ago) ... https://flic.kr/p/nVWq6W'>https://flic.kr/p/nVWq6W'>IMG_1773 by https://www.flickr.com/people//'>kijho6, on Flickr Anybody have any thoughts / suggestions? I haven't changed my Purigen/ Chemipure in about 2 months since I first put it in (in place of the original stuff..) I haven't changed or introduced anything in several weeks... I'm stumped. Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Maybe not enough light !???? Maybe to much idk that's weird whats ur ph like Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 your parameters look spot on so i am not sure what's going on. did u change flow recently? maybe try turning off the koralia 240 for a day? Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Looking at the two photos look like I may have moved around the nozzles on both.. I'm moving them back now to how they appear in the photo from back in June 10th.. we'll see how it goes tomorrow. If I come home I'll turn off the 240 for 4 hours and see if it makes any impact.. Thanks alot of the suggestion my friend, Maybe not enough light !???? Maybe to much idk that's weird whats ur ph like Hmmm... I was thinking that, but if it was "starving" for light I thought it would be extending further to try and "reach" the light.. I haven't changed it though! Perhaps the opposite - too much light? But then I'd presumably see bleaching? Ph is around 8.0 as of today! Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Do they have a parasite take them both outta water and smell them and see if they smell rotten Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 I woke up this morning and found the second head has fallen off my hammer coral You can see on the skeleton that there is a featherduster it looks like.. but I don't see how this could have made the head come off completely? That featherduster had been there since I brought it home... https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10384534_10152561968930309_1134183801481234420_n.jpg?oh=e7daf7e5ff0e60f41d5c718d58686d8e&oe=543EE0B7 - Sorry pic isn't working right now from my work, I'll upload later tonight Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 man that sucks! http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1641526 near the end of that thread, it seems like the head can grow new skeleton??? but definitely check your flow. Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 man that sucks! http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1641526 near the end of that thread, it seems like the head can grow new skeleton??? but definitely check your flow. Damn... looks like it could happen. I haven't been feeding mine.. I can only see the opening in the skeleton at night when they're closed up.. perhaps I should inject some mysis in there during the evening?? Stray voltage also a suggestion.. perhaps a grounding pole ($10, couldn't hurt to give it a try) Then the discussion on "bailout" ... discarded them because they ended up swirling around no matter where I put them and landing in the acan's.. pretty sure one of my acan's is pretty badly hurt from the first head that fell but yesterday it looked like it was trying to heal. Going to try feeding tonight.. Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 You could get a little plastic cup and then get some dry ruck that's all crushed up and place the popes heads in that in a lower flow area to try getting it to attach. If there was stray voltage you can so,entires feel it... Which is not good Link to comment
lecroj Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 What kind of water are you using? I would do close to a 100% water change, but make sure you are using RO/DI water before mixing the salt. Because the SPEC V is so small, I just use Petco sea water and it has been fine. Also, are you moving the torches around a lot? Also, you might be over feeding and have phosphate. Do you have a Phosphate test? Link to comment
Kijho Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Well... clowns are back to beating the crap out of each other. My poor male clown isn't looking too good this evening.. Frogspawn hasn't opened at all and hammer looks still as small... Everything else super big and colorful .. Link to comment
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