ZephNYC Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 I agree that you should wait on adding a clam until things have truly hit an equilibrium. My tank has been fairly stable since setup, but I'm still working on trying to get alk, calc, and mag at a stable place. When those three vary just a bit out of line my coral growth slows down or like recently stopped. I have successfully stopped all STN on the acros(thankfully they are cheap) I have by getting these back in line. Now I need to get them to grow. Adding a clam in would only exacerbate the issue by sucking up all the calc and dropping my alk. I am also trying to get my nitrates in order. They vary between 10 and 20 ppm, which is a bit high it seems when alk varies causing STN. I'd like to maintain about 5 ppm. I am ordering a SAC-301 skimmer to help bring my nitrates down to a reasonable level since I feed everyday(have to for the scooter blenny which is fat and happy and I like fat happy fish). Once I have a steady system with healthy colonies of coral, then I can anticipate the load the clam will add to the system and be able to accommodate. Shelling out 100 bucks and then losing the clam because my system can't cope would seriously piss me off. Its no fun when any animal we keep dies and definitely not fun when an expensive one dies. Sounds good to me, Although skimming wont do much to lower your nitrates, which should be around 2-5 ppm ( IMO). If you want to get them down with water changes its best to do that before you get a clam. Like you said, clams are pretty expensive. Link to comment
tetraodon Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Species of clam? Tridacna derasaLighting - bulb, ballast and count? reef breeders value fixtureClam depth in the tank in inches? bottom of my 20 long, DOC level estimate? ( dont worry almost nobody can answer this) still have no ideaDo you skim? yupDo you run carbon? never did unless i needed toDo you run GFO? not sure what this meansDid you ever freshwater dipped the clam ? not yetAre you seeing new growth? too soon, only had the clam for about a weekCalcium/Alk Method? right now, i dose with seachem calc and researching for a good alk methodWhere and when did you get it? LFS, its a ORA derasaDo you purposely feed ? right now no, im fighting bryopsis tank size 20 long with 10 gallon combo sump Most importantly !!!!! Water changing schedual ???? nothing yet Got nitrates ??? havent tested yet i know you love pics zeph, but my lights arent on yet, i promice to post a pic when the lights are on Link to comment
ZephNYC Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Species of clam? Tridacna derasa Lighting - bulb, ballast and count? reef breeders value fixture Clam depth in the tank in inches? bottom of my 20 long, DOC level estimate? ( dont worry almost nobody can answer this) still have no idea Do you skim? yup Do you run carbon? never did unless i needed to Do you run GFO? not sure what this means Did you ever freshwater dipped the clam ? not yet Are you seeing new growth? too soon, only had the clam for about a week Calcium/Alk Method? right now, i dose with seachem calc and researching for a good alk method Where and when did you get it? LFS, its a ORA derasa Do you purposely feed ? right now no, im fighting bryopsis tank size 20 long with 10 gallon combo sump Most importantly !!!!! Water changing schedual ???? nothing yet Got nitrates ??? havent tested yet i know you love pics zeph, but my lights arent on yet, i promice to post a pic when the lights are on Congratulations on the clam ! I am going to hold you to your promise, and return with a promise to you. I promise to update this thread by the end of the week. Link to comment
ClownTriggerDude Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Please let me know if you want me to start a new thread about this water quality for clams, as I don't want to take over your thread. This is very interesting. Back in the 90's, my wife and I had several reef tanks, large and small. One of our favorite tanks was a 40g breeder that was clam dedicated, but also had mushrooms and several very nice selections of macro algae's and three small fish. It housed 9 beautiful,.....clams, of different types. It contained about 45 lbs of atlantic rock and 60 lbs of seeded live sand. The lighting was one 175w M/H and two VHO tubes. I made the air driven pvc skimmer. I never fed the clams. After adding the fish and cycling for 6 weeks, all the parameter's were great so we started with two clams, we continued adding clams. I made a crude calcium reactor because the clams were soaking up more than the kalkwasser could supply. With only a diamond gobie, it's crab and two other small fish, the nutrients were very low. A bristle worm did kill one clam and my wife was so upset she almost wanted to get rid of it, but came to her sence's in a few days. Lol We started racing winged sprint cars and I built a 1966 Ford 427 Shelby Cobra and bought a boat, so something had to go. Lol We sold most everything related to the reef hobby, but now were back into this wonderful hobby. I just set up a 29g BioCube for my wife and will house clams, mushrooms and a few LPS's with a Kessil 150w sky blue pendant, Cadlights nano skimmer and two media towers. My point is, although the old tank had very low amounts of nutrients, good skimming, lighting and light feeding of the fish, the tank thrived. Every tank is different and it worked great for us. Link to comment
tetraodon Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 hey zeph heres my new clam http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/tetraodon1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140626_115630_zps7916e254.jpg.html'> http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/tetraodon1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140626_115652_zps3657cef8.jpg.html'> Please let me know if you want me to start a new thread about this water quality for clams, as I don't want to take over your thread. This is very interesting.Back in the 90's, my wife and I had several reef tanks, large and small. One of our favorite tanks was a 40g breeder that was clam dedicated, but also had mushrooms and several very nice selections of macro algae's and three small fish. It housed 9 beautiful,.....clams, of different types.It contained about 45 lbs of atlantic rock and 60 lbs of seeded live sand. The lighting was one 175w M/H and two VHO tubes. I made the air driven pvc skimmer. I never fed the clams. After adding the fish and cycling for 6 weeks, all the parameter's were great so we started with two clams, we continued adding clams. I made a crude calcium reactor because the clams were soaking up more than the kalkwasser could supply. With only a diamond gobie, it's crab and two other small fish, the nutrients were very low. A bristle worm did kill one clam and my wife was so upset she almost wanted to get rid of it, but came to her sence's in a few days. LolWe started racing winged sprint cars and I built a 1966 Ford 427 Shelby Cobra and bought a boat, so something had to go. LolWe sold most everything related to the reef hobby, but now were back into this wonderful hobby. I just set up a 29g BioCube for my wife and will house clams, mushrooms and a few LPS's with a Kessil 150w sky blue pendant, Cadlights nano skimmer and two media towers.My point is, although the old tank had very low amounts of nutrients, good skimming, lighting and light feeding of the fish, the tank thrived. Every tank is different and it worked great for us. dude, i would would sell most of my stuff for a shelby 427 s/c, you still have that car? Link to comment
metrokat Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 YOU MUST BE KIDDING MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!?!?!?!?!? ORA BLUE SQUAMOSAS ???????!!!!!!!!!!! DANG! too bad they only made 4. I NEED THAT Link to comment
ClownTriggerDude Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, I do and will never sell it. I could talk all day about it and many stories. 427 side oiler that Carroll Shelby's team raced in 1967. I rebuilt it in 2003 with bigger cam, lots of head work, dominator carb. etc.... Dynode 637 HP/ 580 ft.lbs torque at the rear wheels. Ran 3 laps at the Kansas Motor Speedway, 164.3 mph. 1/4 mile on slicks, 10.38 sec @134mph. 0-60 mph, 3.8 sec. More photo's- ( I can't paste a link for them) ??? Link to comment
tetraodon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, I do and will never sell it. I could talk all day about it and many stories. 427 side oiler that Carroll Shelby's team raced in 1967. I rebuilt it in 2003 with bigger cam, lots of head work, dominator carb. etc.... Dynode 637 HP/ 580 ft.lbs torque at the rear wheels. Ran 3 laps at the Kansas Motor Speedway, 164.3 mph. 1/4 mile on slicks, 10.38 sec @134mph. 0-60 mph, 3.8 sec. More photo's- ( I can't paste a link for them) ??? ok damn, i just had a cargasm, i know i probably will never own even a kit car of it, but damn i can dream Link to comment
Cameron6796 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I NEED THAT " if you want something...TAKE IT" *motivational speaker voice* Link to comment
ClownTriggerDude Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Dreams come true, mine did, so can yours. Link to comment
ZephNYC Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, I do and will never sell it. I could talk all day about it and many stories. 427 side oiler that Carroll Shelby's team raced in 1967. I rebuilt it in 2003 with bigger cam, lots of head work, dominator carb. etc.... Dynode 637 HP/ 580 ft.lbs torque at the rear wheels. Ran 3 laps at the Kansas Motor Speedway, 164.3 mph. 1/4 mile on slicks, 10.38 sec @134mph. 0-60 mph, 3.8 sec. More photo's- ( I can't paste a link for them) ??? That is INSANE. Friggin AWESOME !!! Dreams come true, mine did, so can yours. So did mine, but count your blessings my friend and don't take anything for granted. I've seen millionaires go homeless. Hell it almost happened to me. Please let me know if you want me to start a new thread about this water quality for clams, as I don't want to take over your thread. This is very interesting. Back in the 90's, my wife and I had several reef tanks, large and small. One of our favorite tanks was a 40g breeder that was clam dedicated, but also had mushrooms and several very nice selections of macro algae's and three small fish. It housed 9 beautiful,.....clams, of different types. It contained about 45 lbs of atlantic rock and 60 lbs of seeded live sand. The lighting was one 175w M/H and two VHO tubes. I made the air driven pvc skimmer. I never fed the clams. After adding the fish and cycling for 6 weeks, all the parameter's were great so we started with two clams, we continued adding clams. I made a crude calcium reactor because the clams were soaking up more than the kalkwasser could supply. With only a diamond gobie, it's crab and two other small fish, the nutrients were very low. A bristle worm did kill one clam and my wife was so upset she almost wanted to get rid of it, but came to her sence's in a few days. Lol We started racing winged sprint cars and I built a 1966 Ford 427 Shelby Cobra and bought a boat, so something had to go. Lol We sold most everything related to the reef hobby, but now were back into this wonderful hobby. I just set up a 29g BioCube for my wife and will house clams, mushrooms and a few LPS's with a Kessil 150w sky blue pendant, Cadlights nano skimmer and two media towers. My point is, although the old tank had very low amounts of nutrients, good skimming, lighting and light feeding of the fish, the tank thrived. Every tank is different and it worked great for us. No need to start a new thread. This thread doesn't get enough action as it is. The old clam tank sounds sweet, and you have had good luck with clams. You obviously have the gift of a wet thumb...with a little motor oil on it to boot !!! Link to comment
ClownTriggerDude Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 "with a little motor oil on it to boot" lol, that's great ! Link to comment
TJ_Burton Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 She has been improving dramatically over the last 3 weeks or so. Blue pigments (most easily seen in the first photo of her that I ever posted) have started to return, and her mantle has gained quite a bit of color/pigment over all. She isn't looking pale anymore and I am really excited to continue watching her improve. Link to comment
ZephNYC Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 She has been improving dramatically over the last 3 weeks or so. Blue pigments (most easily seen in the first photo of her that I ever posted) have started to return, and her mantle has gained quite a bit of color/pigment over all. She isn't looking pale anymore and I am really excited to continue watching her improve. It looks stunning!! Super healthy. Whatever you're doing don't change a thing! Link to comment
TJ_Burton Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 It looks stunning!! Super healthy. Whatever you're doing don't change a thing! But my system is running off of a canister filter and I don't even have a skimmer... shouldn't I be changing everything? Link to comment
ZephNYC Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 But my system is running off of a canister filter and I don't even have a skimmer... shouldn't I be changing everything? You're a pioneer for future clam keepers. Bad new first : SO yesterday was my birthday, 47 !!!!! Hard to believe the big FIVE ZERO is just around the corner. Good news ??? I got a nifty new laptop and can get back to posting hot pics ???? Happy clam keeping Nano Reefers!!! Link to comment
ZephNYC Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Well Happy Birthday. Old man. I may be old, but I'm terribly immature. Link to comment
tetraodon Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 hey zeph, are clams sensitive to h2o2 treatments for algae? Link to comment
tetraodon Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I may be old, but I'm terribly immature. happy birthday by the way haha Link to comment
ClownTriggerDude Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yes, what are you doing to make the clam happier ? Link to comment
tetraodon Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yes, what are you doing to make the clam happier ? Did a water change and running carbon, wasnt sure what else I can do Link to comment
FlowerMama Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Well, happy belated birthday, nice to know there are more of us in our 40s. Link to comment
ZephNYC Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Im really not sure, iv e never had an algae problem <knock on wood>. happy birthday by the way haha Thank you cutie ! Well, happy belated birthday, nice to know there are more of us in our 40s. SO true...and Thank You !!!!!! Link to comment
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