yoshii Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 No, it can happen with a single freezing. Ice crystals can create sharp points that can penetrate and cut cell membranes, so that when you thaw it out it's a bit like feeding a popped water balloon. If they are flash freezing them the right way it can be avoided, but I have no idea whether they do or not. Only way to know is throw it under a scope. The reason rotifers are such a good feed is that they are like little balloons filled with what they just ate, generally phytoplankton. An empty or ruptured rotifer will be just about worthless. Ah, I see. Hmm maybe when the school year starts, I'll get some frozen & refrigerated rotifers and bring them afterschool and see if the lab's microscopes are good enough to see anything. Good point. So roti-feast is probably the better option. Hey yosh, if you can't finish the whole bottle, I'll help you with it Lol sure, I can never use them up before they expire! You want some Oyster Feast too? I have like half the bottle left and I think it expires in a month or two Link to comment
altolamprologus Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Lol sure, I can never use them up before they expire! You want some Oyster Feast too? I have like half the bottle left and I think it expires in a month or two Oh sure that would be cool. Mine is almost gone. Oh and I need to give you the 10 gal tank back. My mom tried to throw it away... Link to comment
yoshii Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Oh sure that would be cool. Mine is almost gone. Oh and I need to give you the 10 gal tank back. My mom tried to throw it away... I also have a TON of frozen BBS if you want some of that too, there's so many just in one nano cube Lol I forgot about that! You still have it? Link to comment
altolamprologus Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I also have a TON of frozen BBS if you want some of that too, there's so many just in one nano cube Lol I forgot about that! You still have it? Yeah I do. OMG IDEA...set it up for the black angler at your house!!! Link to comment
yoshii Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Yeah I do. OMG IDEA...set it up for the black angler at your house!!! Just so you can come over and stare at it for hours? I don't think my mom will let me set up another tank at her house. Plus, I'm going to be re-setting up my 55 soon Anyways, back to my 3g, I tested alk today, it's back at 7.0dKH! I didn't dose the last 2 or 3 days but I didn't except it to drop that fast. Link to comment
brandon429 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 whats the calcium reading at the same time yoshi and your salinity Im wondering Link to comment
wombat Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Ah, I see. Hmm maybe when the school year starts, I'll get some frozen & refrigerated rotifers and bring them afterschool and see if the lab's microscopes are good enough to see anything. That sounds like a good idea and something a good biology teacher should be overjoyed that you want to pursue on your own. Even 10-20x will be sufficient to see them well enough. Take photos if you can! Link to comment
yoshii Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 whats the calcium reading at the same time yoshi and your salinity Im wondering That's one more test kit I need to pick up Sg-1.024 That sounds like a good idea and something a good biology teacher should be overjoyed that you want to pursue on your own. Even 10-20x will be sufficient to see them well enough. Take photos if you can! My old marine bio teacher loved it when me and Alto brought in stuff, I'm hoping my science teacher this year will feel the same! Even to see if they're punctured or not? I was excepting to have to use a higher magnification I think the best I'll get is a drawing They're not the ones that hook up to a computer Link to comment
wombat Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Goofy night, I mean 100x-400x will be plenty. A rotifer should pretty much fill up the screen at that magnification. Link to comment
yoshii Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Goofy night, I mean 100x-400x will be plenty. A rotifer should pretty much fill up the screen at that magnification. Ok cool I will try to draw as accurately as I can! Link to comment
wombat Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Ok cool I will try to draw as accurately as I can! You have an iPhone, or a friend at school with one? Put the camera lens about an inch behind where your eye would go on the scope eyepiece until you get it in focus. Basically the camera lens needs to be in the exact same spot that the back of your eyeball would be and you can take a photo of what's under the scope. It's not great, but it works. Link to comment
yoshii Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 You have an iPhone, or a friend at school with one? Put the camera lens about an inch behind where your eye would go on the scope eyepiece until you get it in focus. Basically the camera lens needs to be in the exact same spot that the back of your eyeball would be and you can take a photo of what's under the scope. It's not great, but it works. I don't, but I'll try to borrow someones Thanks Link to comment
yoshii Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Eviota introducing a new rainbow monti frag I think I'll be able to compare rotifers either on tues or thurs, my teacher has some meetings during the week so if not this week, then I'll try next week Link to comment
Squared Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 rainbow montis grow like weeds. like little grassy/mossy patches on your rocks. Link to comment
lljdma06 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Eviota introducing a new rainbow monti frag I think I'll be able to compare rotifers either on tues or thurs, my teacher has some meetings during the week so if not this week, then I'll try next week that is a nice frag, Yoshii. Sorry school started and I haven't been lurking here much. I do actually have to work. LOLOL I want... Link to comment
yoshii Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thanks guys, I need to decide where it's going so I can take it off the plug and let it encrust Lol that's ok, I just started school last week, the first weekend teachers piled us with tons of hw Oh, and I got a cube of frozen rotifers today (Thanks Alto) so I'm hoping I'll remember tomorrow to bring it to school and see how they look under the microscope! Link to comment
yoshii Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 None of my friends with iphones wanted to stay late to look at "boring" marine micro organisms, so these pics with my phone are the best I got, hopefully you guys can help me make sense of them! Roti-Feast (Refrigerated) Idk if those blobs are rotifers or colonies of bacteria or what Roti-Feast (Refrigerated) I thought this one was really cool cause you can clearly see the lines of the roti to the left of the blob in the middle Roti-Feast (Refrigerated) Um the best description I can come up with is jagged blobs Frozen Rotifers Now for the frozen, you can see the bunch of "shells" in the middle and scattered around, the circular blobs, idk? I had other pics of the frozen rotifers, but my phone gives me an error message when I try to send them to my computer Link to comment
altolamprologus Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 None of my friends with iphones wanted to stay late to look at "boring" marine micro organisms, so these pics with my phone are the best I got, hopefully you guys can help me make sense of them! Roti-Feast (Refrigerated) Idk if those blobs are rotifers or colonies of bacteria or what Roti-Feast (Refrigerated) I thought this one was really cool cause you can clearly see the lines of the roti to the left of the blob in the middle Roti-Feast (Refrigerated) Um the best description I can come up with is jagged blobs Frozen Rotifers Now for the frozen, you can see the bunch of "shells" in the middle and scattered around, the circular blobs, idk? I had other pics of the frozen rotifers, but my phone gives me an error message when I try to send them to my computer Well it definitely looks like a lot of the frozen rotifers have burst and are useless. Not sure what the other stuff is though... Link to comment
yoshii Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 That last pic was a large cluster a "popped" rotifers, not all of it was like that though, but I'm pretty sure there were more burst rotis in the frozen than the refrigerated. Now I want to figure out what those circular blobs are! Oh, new coral for this tank btw Possibly the worst picture ever, but it's soooo pretty! It has pink, white, and green "skin" with bright red polyps I glued it on a rock, seems to being doing good so far Link to comment
altolamprologus Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Oh, new coral for this tank btw Possibly the worst picture ever, but it's soooo pretty! It has pink, white, and green "skin" with bright red polyps I glued it on a rock, seems to being doing good so far Agreed, worst pic ever. Get a better pic and maybe I'll say something constructive. Link to comment
yoshii Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Agreed, worst pic ever. Get a better pic and maybe I'll say something constructive. I would say something about you having the camera, but I doubt that camera would do much better I'll try to find out the street name so I can google a picture for you Link to comment
animalmaster6 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I love that rainbow monti. Really nice coral. Are you a junior or senior btw? Link to comment
yoshii Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 I love that rainbow monti. Really nice coral. Are you a junior or senior btw? Me too I love almost all montis, but rainbows are one of my favs SENIOR!! WOOO GO CLASS OF 2012!!! Link to comment
lljdma06 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hi Yoshii, please say it's college... Otherwise I'll just feel really old. Nice new coral blob in blue water. Just kidding. I'm sure you'll get a better picture up soon. Link to comment
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