Peroxide saves my Tank! With pics to Prove It!

[04V10]

I'm thinking you need to do about an 80% water change all at once

 

Matching temp and specific gravity

 

Doing a %20 tonight. I had done a large change previously with no change unfortunately. Params are great though...

[brandon429]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...359&page=11

 

look at what Mitch did at the bottom of this page with his Valonia problem!

 

Tank has a lot of delicate sps

 

this thread also has a lot of really large tanks doing the treatment

[brandon429]

reefmiser it would be the greatest thing if we can get all the original treaters to post update pics to prove it's a long term solution

 

tell a little bit about the journey of 2011 and how much work was required to keep your tank looking great

 

for me it was the least work of the 6 years of the life of my tank. I neglected water quality more than ever but I treated a tiny pencil eraser size spot of gha and a spot of red twice all year long. I was able to photograph the best results with the least work I've ever done in any years time for a pico reef because of peroxide spot treatments, in tank ones.

[acropora1981]

reefmiser it would be the greatest thing if we can get all the original treaters to post update pics to prove it's a long term solution

 

You can see my tank is now devoid of Valonia and caulerpa because of this procedure. Just check my newest fts on my thread.

[bsdryder7]

SO DO I HAVE TO TAKE THE ROCK OUT TO SPOT TREAT IT OR CAN I USE A SYRINGE TO SPOT IN THE TANK ?? AND IF I HAVE TO TAKE THE ROCK OUT SHOULD I BE CARFUL WITH DISTURBING THE SAND BED CAUSE I HAVE HEARD IT CAN RELEASE NITRATE POCKETS??

[brandon429]

yes that's a good call when pouring water pour very slowly

 

if you don't have cleaner shrimp, anemones or decorative macro algae you can treat in tank

After one treatment, if you hit all the algae 90% will fall off the rocks clean in three days

 

 

do a follow up water change after the treatment, just a short exposure

 

the water change exports it back out

 

Can you post your before pics

[metrokat]

Turf Algae August 2011

 

September:

 

In october it was a chia pet. I pulled it out by hand and scrubbed but it came back. Then I drizzled undiluted peroxide on it, (this is a bi valve BTW so I had to be careful) and the stuff sizzled and bubbled for over 3-4 minutes. Put it back in the tank. Macros survived, clam is happy. Not a lick of turf algae, been over 3 months.

 

In fact you can see the shell for the first time.

 

This is the first photo, before it became a problem:

[bsdryder7]

i have a cleaner and anemone dang it .......how are torch corals with this treatment ??

[metrokat]

My torch coral wasn't dipped.

[bsdryder7]

can u just take the rock out of water for a few seconds while u spot treat it ??

[metrokat]

yes

 

and that was a clam i took out for 5 minutes BTW, it's not a rock. He likes to pretend he's a rock.

[bsdryder7]

yes that's a good call when pouring water pour very slowly

 

if you don't have cleaner shrimp, anemones or decorative macro algae you can treat in tank

After one treatment, if you hit all the algae 90% will fall off the rocks clean in three days

 

 

do a follow up water change after the treatment, just a short exposure

 

the water change exports it back out

 

Can you post your before pics

 

 

My torch coral wasn't dipped.

 

 

yes

 

and that was a clam i took out for 5 minutes BTW, it's not a rock. He likes to pretend he's a rock.

wow thats brave to take out your clam for 5 mins out of water .....whats the limit of time any coral should be out of the water before you start to kill them??

[metrokat]

He's a tough guy, his name is humpty. He came as a hitch hiker in a box with no water and sat in a box with no water for 3 days. 5 minutes? pffft.

[brandon429]

That's neat know they are that tough I'll keep that in mind.

 

I think all corals we keep can do a minute or two no prob as safety

And much more likely

I personally have left my bowl of 15 kinds of coral empty for up to 8 mins

 

seriatopora and decorative sponges (that most don't keep) don't like emersion but the majority of what we keep does not mind

Edited February 26, 2012 by brandon429

[jason8612]

I either got some bryopsis or some maidens hair that is starting to overrun my tank.

I can try the Kent Tech-M stuff. I'm thinking about the H2O2, but I'm worried about how much to add to the tank. The tank is a 8gal nano reef with a fish, snails, and shrimp and softies. I can't remove the rocks as the whole group are attached, nor can I drain the tank down as the algae is touching the sand bed. So I would have to dose the tank.

Is this possible?

[djfrankn]

I either got some bryopsis or some maidens hair that is starting to overrun my tank.

I can try the Kent Tech-M stuff. I'm thinking about the H2O2, but I'm worried about how much to add to the tank. The tank is a 8gal nano reef with a fish, snails, and shrimp and softies. I can't remove the rocks as the whole group are attached, nor can I drain the tank down as the algae is touching the sand bed. So I would have to dose the tank.

Is this possible?

Hey Jason, I would try with doing spot treatments with a turkey baster instead of trating a whole tank. Remember that this thing will kill algae, some pods, worms and maybe something else. So, ammonia and nitrate spikes plus ph drops would not be unusual. Frank.

[jason8612]

I was thinking of the spot treatments using a syringe and turning off the filter.

I do have xenias in the tank. From what I read thru this long thread, the average for tank dosing is 1ml for 10gal. This is a 30L (8gal) tank, minus the rock and sand so hovering around I think 6.5gal or so. Thus 0.65ml would be standard.

If I used lets say 1/2 to 2/3 that amount, then after about 10min did a 25% water change, my level would be way under 1/2 of the dosing amount which hopefully will be fine for my xenia. I don't find a nuisance at all as it stays on their side of the tank.

 

Some photos

 

[brandon429]

You will find the drain and treat method ideal because it concentrates the peroxide you are about to broadcast apply, and you can use less overall

 

drain the tank as far as you can, treat those accessible areas first. They will die in three days

 

Then take care of the last bit after you are motivated from cleaning the top 2/3!

 

I suspect the last bit can be taken care of with one last drain. Broadcast apply the peroxide when the water is drained...let sit for two mins then change it all out with fresh saltwater it will kill off the last patch and your tank will be clean

 

The tank was open aquascaped and easily accessible that's what stood out about the drain and treat

[jason8612]

You will find the drain and treat method ideal because it concentrates the peroxide you are about to broadcast apply, and you can use less overall

 

drain the tank as far as you can, treat those accessible areas first. They will die in three days

 

Then take care of the last bit after you are motivated from cleaning the top 2/3!

 

I suspect the last bit can be taken care of with one last drain. Broadcast apply the peroxide when the water is drained...let sit for two mins then change it all out with fresh saltwater it will kill off the last patch and your tank will be clean

 

The tank was open aquascaped and easily accessible that's what stood out about the drain and treat

 

 

So,

Drain the tank down to a 1/3 or so. Add the peroxide to the areas..how? paper towel with peroxide? Just drop on it? a spray bottle might be too much.

And if I get the last part, do you mean just use the bottom 1/3 of the water and dose it and then empty it? I'm worried about the blenny. Catching him will be near impossible.

[brandon429]

Yes just use a dropper of some kind, one or two drops per area to keep it to a minimum

 

The fish should not be affected no matter how you treat, we haven't seen fish mortality in any peroxide thread on any forum, any kind of fish. We can wait to kill the bottom parts after the top is done no hurry

 

That gives us time to make a gameplan for the final dose

 

your tank will be the first 1 with the sexy shrimp that we've treated so i'm thinking of ways to keep the doses low

 

 

 

The tank needs cleaning though, that's first priority to prevent further spread

[jason8612]

Yes just use a dropper of some kind, one or two drops per area to keep it to a minimum

 

The fish should not be affected no matter how you treat, we haven't seen fish mortality in any peroxide thread on any forum, any kind of fish. We can wait to kill the bottom parts after the top is done no hurry

 

That gives us time to make a gameplan for the final dose

 

your tank will be the first 1 with the sexy shrimp that we've treated so i'm thinking of ways to keep the doses low

 

 

 

The tank needs cleaning though, that's first priority to prevent further spread

 

OK

I'm going to pick up some bigger buckets, some tubing for the draining and some 3% H2O2 today. I'll also get a syringe and needles.

Also, I got a hand sanitizing spray from CVS. I think the little bottle would be perfect for spot spraying. I'm thinking of emptying it out (as it's almost empty) and cleaning it well and using it for spot spray. What do you think?

 

Edited February 26, 2012 by jason8612

[brandon429]

Yes that's cool for sure

I've had 1 of those before they are a highly efficient misting sprayer

 

the in tank treatment is the only 1 I've run on my vase, don't wanna take out the rocks

 

after I refill the tank, which puts the proxide I used into solution, another large water change is ran to export as much back out

 

In tank treatments should be heavy with water changes IMO

 

Like Kat mentioned above the pics show your rock can be lifted straight up and out for treatment

this allows you to use an unlimited amount of peroxide directly on the algae, then rinse

 

it allows you to clean/siphon up under the rocks too and its guaranteed safe for the tank if you can possibly do an external treatment

[jason8612]

OK to update.

So I did the spot treatment method. I took out the top rock and the rock on the right. For the top rock, I misted it with the 3% H2O2 in a empty bucket and let it sit for a few minutes. Instantly I saw bristle worms coming out and dying but nothing to the algae. No fizzing, foaming, etc. I then rinsed it off with a fresh saltwater mix. for the other rock (bottom right) I went and used the drop method. I filled a syringe and used a needle to hit all the clusters of the green algae. I then waited and rinsed it off. I also used some towels and gloves in case of the bristle worms.

While I was waiting, I siphoned my tank at the bottom to remove some debris. During this process, the blenny was freaking out. I guess him not having all his little caves pissed him off.

I did some 50% water change after I put the rocks back in and with the rinse, there shouldn't be (or very little) H2O2 left.

 

Below are photos an hour later - not much changed. The corals are opening up or are opened up. The blenny is happy he got his home back. Only thing is I cannot find the shrimp. I was very careful putting the rocks back in place and had the shrimp in view the whole time. Since I put the rocks back, Mr. Shrimp is missing.

 

 

Photos of before

 

 

 

An hour later

[jason8612]

And just now the shrimp came out back on his home.

So far no causalities...

[brandon429]

That is really nice work

 

We won't miss a few bristleworms!

You are right about the fizzing the algae doesn't show much

 

But by Tuesday, you will see a big difference thank you for posting the before and after pics!