Murphs_Reef Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 5 hours ago, brandon429 said: I recommend never, ever allowing a remass step up gardening, refuse dandelions if conditions in your home setting and internal tank setting fosters algae and cyano the physical prevention aspect is what gives you the upper hand. Rip cleans are not insulting in any way, they’re regenerative see 47 pages here, look for harm patterns if any this is a trove of about two million bucks of reefs doing surgery. I estimated the cost of each tank based on before pics to arrive at that guesstimate look for patterns or outliers, animal losses vs retention, sustainment of the clean condition # of months and we can discern safety vs harm from the patterns https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/official-sand-rinse-and-tank-transfer-thread.230281/ when waves crash on a fringing reef in Fiji for ten millennia, that’s a set of well rip cleaned rocks that still grow algae if grazers are removed from the physical control portion. The reason we rip clean is so that expected follow up work doesn’t spread cloud around the tank, you can lift rocks away to expose the back wall area for cleaning and detritus doesn’t upwell all over the tank, you can attach a razor blade to the end of a common siphon hose and turn off pumps, still the tank, be scraping algae down while the siphon runs which is exporting offending mass, and you could also get another cheap pond sterilizer off Amazon to handle some growback for you by catching it in transition phases when it moves from surface to surface via the water. I recommend all manner of resolve and absolutely no passiveness when it comes to investment control. the reason I recommend completely opposite of the common thought on invasions: common thought has had twenty years to get control over common invasions and it can’t. Folks who indeed honestly attained a balance by not battling with invasions aren’t able to commute that same outcome to others, it’s a lark when inaction works to resolve tank invasions. Until the calmer methods come with as many pages of outcomes under control my recommend is to ditch the common method and we should cease repeating actions that take our investments away in many cases. I’m not bucking the system just to pick on it, their cure rates are like 2% likely when ran for other’s systems. The advice comes from non acceptance of the current tank loss rates. We literally have the ability to own invasionless systems, everyone does. all common methods of control should be applied in the completely uninvaded condition that we caused by hand work. What do the masses do? Allow wreckage, avoid work, and hope with fingers crossed a given method both removes their current invasion and prevents future ones. That way isn’t working in the hobby as a whole but I agree it can work for a minority of keepers who are simply adept and potentially a little lucky at invasion control, in their own tanks I just did the rip. Clean 2 months ago if you remember? Due to ich.. before that I have no issue with algae... In fact it was perfect. Only did rip clean because I was removing all the rock to get the fish out. My glass test was bang on perfect. The sand was super clean... But.since then... My tank has mats of cyano and GHA ... Quote Link to comment
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