banasophia Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I dunno, but it seems very important to consider the scale here… that is only going from like 7.68 to 7.95 and back to 7.68… that’s less than 0.5 difference in dKH which seems like like it’s in the safe zone? Is it necessary to control it that tightly? I’m still wondering if this may just be too many data points… but don’t ask me, I definitely do not have what it takes to do acros. 1 Quote Link to comment
banasophia Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Reef Cleaners emeralds are guaranteed to eat bubble algae… could try some of theirs… I’ve also been dealing with bubble algae infestations in my Biocube 32 and my Evo 5… their emeralds quickly got it under control in the Biocube 32, still working on the Evo 5 where the rock basically had a thick layer of bubble algae and bryopsis all over. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 10 hours ago, banasophia said: Reef Cleaners I don't order from them unless its between march and june. every order outside that range has come in DOA. Since he changed his packing technique I'm not a fan. The last order i put in (last winter) came wrapped in like padded aluminum foil with a tiny heat pack. There was literal ice shards in the water. His refund policy is garbage too, only covers the animals. 10 hours ago, banasophia said: had a thick layer of bubble algae I took the rock out and dowsed it in hydroen peroxide. lets see if that works lol. 10 hours ago, banasophia said: 0.5 difference in dKH which seems like like it’s in the safe zone? swings when there's 0 nitrate is bad. but i cannot keep nitrate above 0 at all. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 Nitrate 3.4 ppm phosphate 0.13 ppm i did drop my phosphate reactor down last week might just turn it back up a smidge Quote Link to comment
mitten_reef Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 22 hours ago, TheKleinReef said: I have 10 and they’ve made no dent. Also. What the effff would cause this drop? 24 minutes ago, TheKleinReef said: Nitrate 3.4 ppm phosphate 0.13 ppm i did drop my phosphate reactor down last week might just turn it back up a smidge I’d honestly let it go for a week and see what’s going on with all of them, alk, N, and P. What if N and P helps trigger alk consumption? Now you have some detactable N and P for the first time, would kinda make sense that alk is being consumed. I’m as stumped as you on the rise over the past few days tho. To me, I keep going back to equipment issue, it’s almost like a baseline drift in a chemistry lab. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, mitten_reef said: I’d honestly let it go for a week and see what’s going on with all of them, alk, N, and P. What if N and P helps trigger alk consumption? Now you have some detactable N and P for the first time, would kinda make sense that alk is being consumed. I’m as stumped as you on the rise over the past few days tho. To me, I keep going back to equipment issue, it’s almost like a baseline drift in a chemistry lab. But it had a week or so of similar values, then steadily climbed a bit then nose dived. Seems odd. hopefully I’ll see some growth everything is a bit stressed from the rock removal and hydrogen peroxide dowsing but everything opened up. Sps look about the same too. Just stagnant. Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 took the rock out, dowsed it in hydrogen peroxide and nearly all of it died. Hopefully the rest can be cleaned up by the emeralds* Also sent some water samples to ATI, they test your tank water and RODI. I also calibrated my trident and now alk is showing 8.0-8.4 compared to 7.5-7.7 which means it's either off now, or it was 0.7-1.0 lower before, which would make sense. If it was that far off before my alk could have been 0.7-1.0dkh lower than what was being measured. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 i'm also curious on how much of the calibration fluid is left in the lines, messing with the measurements following calibration. i'm skeptical alk is actually 8.4 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 Will ya look at that alk be climbing again 1 1 Quote Link to comment
mitten_reef Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 21 minutes ago, TheKleinReef said: Will ya look at that alk be climbing again Did you start dosing again? Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 14 hours ago, mitten_reef said: Did you start dosing again? nope just fish food Quote Link to comment
mitten_reef Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 minutes ago, TheKleinReef said: nope just fish food so puzzling....historical rise in the past aside....on a grand scale of things, you went from 8.4 to 8.2 to 8.5. what's the error range for Trident? Is it within their acceptable range? I mean, it'd be possible to see similar results using titration kit. Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, mitten_reef said: so puzzling....historical rise in the past aside....on a grand scale of things, you went from 8.4 to 8.2 to 8.5. what's the error range for Trident? Is it within their acceptable range? I mean, it'd be possible to see similar results using titration kit. error is 0.5 but that's error per test. most people use the trident as tracking consistency not accuracy. if it measures 8.5, it could be 8.5 +/-0.5, sure, but the error from test to test should be negligible. what's odd is it was staying 7.5-7.7 until i calibrated it then it went to 8.3, now it's rising again. hopefully the ICP results will shed some light. Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 last 8 tests chilling at 8.45-8.5 maybe this tank wants to be at 8.5 lol Quote Link to comment
mitten_reef Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 minutes ago, TheKleinReef said: last 8 tests chilling at 8.45-8.5 maybe this tank wants to be at 8.5 lol and what do your manual test results say? have you done any during this past week, just to keep track with the trident? One reason I don't feel the need to get into the granular details of test results...the other, I'm lazy Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, mitten_reef said: and what do your manual test results say? have you done any during this past week, just to keep track with the trident? One reason I don't feel the need to get into the granular details of test results...the other, I'm lazy hanna consistency tests 1.0dkh higher. it's still testing 1.0 higher. at 9.5ish when the trident measured 7.5 the hanna measured 8.3ish i just don't have anything other to point to why the SPS are looking kinda drab, i'm very close to blaming the radions. Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 pog. This is tank water: This is RODI. high in silicon. Maybe I need to get a better RODI? Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Also trident is right on. ICP says 8.45dkh. nitrate 5.2 phosphate 0.03 2 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 alk still on the climb. went from 8.0 to 8.7 in 5 days Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 I think this tank wants to be at 9 why? I have no idea. That concept just makes no sense to me. If alk is being released during denitrification, why does it matter what the current alk level is in the tank. bright side my Anacropora is turning green again. 2 Quote Link to comment
A.m.P Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Might be time to just roll with the higher alk! It's a bit nastier for people who don't test as often, might keep you from running quite as high a PAR too, but you monitor frequently enough to be running 11 or 12 DKH if you wanted to and you'd probably have insane growth. Plus, it gets allot harder for the system to continue climbing once you get around 9-10 DKH, it just takes a ton more alkalinity to keep things moving upwards at that point. Might make it easier to keep things steady. Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 21 hours ago, A.m.P said: Might be time to just roll with the higher alk! It's a bit nastier for people who don't test as often, might keep you from running quite as high a PAR too, but you monitor frequently enough to be running 11 or 12 DKH if you wanted to and you'd probably have insane growth. Plus, it gets allot harder for the system to continue climbing once you get around 9-10 DKH, it just takes a ton more alkalinity to keep things moving upwards at that point. Might make it easier to keep things steady. I will say, after this tank crashed an i just let it go, i never tested anything. when i did it for the first time it was like 9.2 dkh. Maybe you're right. It'd be easier to find a salt that mixes clean and closer to 9 though. TM classic mixes to 8.5 but i'm too scared of that brand now. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 But also that 9.2 was measured with Hanna. And my Hanna has been consistently .8-1.0 higher than Red Sea and the trident. So who tf knows anymore. im not gonna dona wc until it stops climbing. We shall see what that number is 3 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 smart TVs won’t be smart until they increase volume when crunchy food is detected 4 Quote Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 hahaha 12 hours ago, TheKleinReef said: smart TVs won’t be smart until they increase volume when crunchy food is detected Quote Link to comment
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