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Is that even a constant current driver or does it just adjust voltage output?

 

Datasheets for the LEDs used:

http://www.philipslumileds.com/uploads/382/DS106-pdf'>Luxeon T (white, royal blue)

http://www.philipslumileds.com/uploads/265/DS68-pdf'>Rebel and ES color (lime, blue, cyan)

http://www.semileds.com/system/files/C3535U-UNL1.pdf'>SemiLEDs C35 (violet)

 

Hi Jedi,

Ist both current driver plus controller for 12 channels and two fans.

 

I (or Google) put a translation into this thread:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluetwiled.com%2Fdoku.php%3Fid%3Dbluetwiled2x%3Astart&sandbox=1

And

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluetwiled.com%2Fdoku.php%3Fid%3Dbluetwiled2x%3Ahardware&sandbox=1

 

Besides that he offers also slave boards and power boards for higher voltages. Just try Google translate. The englisch Text is readable.

 

Thanks,

Gerd

 

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Hi Jedi, Ist both current driver plus controller for 12 channels and two fans. I (or Google) put a translation into this thread: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluetwiled.com%2Fdoku.php%3Fid%3Dbluetwiled2x%3Astart&sandbox=1 And http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluetwiled.com%2Fdoku.php%3Fid%3Dbluetwiled2x%3Ahardware&sandbox=1 Besides that he offers also slave boards and power boards for higher voltages. Just try Google translate. The englisch Text is readable. Thanks, Gerd

The first link says that it is simply a step-down converter and just burns the excess voltage as heat, but the second link says it 'keeps current constant and varies voltage'. Not sure which to believe, but it does not appear to use LED drivers, all I see are different capacitors.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, I see that the board is double sided, there are components and what appear to be drivers on the back side. Carry on :D

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The first link says that it is simply a step-down converter and just burns the excess voltage as heat, but the second link says it 'keeps current constant and varies voltage'. Not sure which to believe, but it does not appear to use LED drivers, all I see are different capacitors.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, I see that the board is double sided, there are components and what appear to be drivers on the back side. Carry on :D

 

Yes it varies the voltage. During the purchasing process you have to Delfine which current you need on certain channel.

See also the FAQ.

 

Many German DIY built their LED fixtures.

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Thanks Dave,

one more question, because we have an DIY-manufacturer for LED controller with 12 channels (adjustable from 350 mA to 1000 mA) and maximum Voltage of 24 V

https://www.bluetwiled.com/doku.php?id=bluetwiled2x:start

That’s why one more question. Please can you give me the information about the Voltage for

  1. Channel 1
  2. Channel 2
  3. Channel 3
  4. Channel 4

 

Thank you again for your answer!

Gerd

Gerd,

To be safe go with a power supply of 24v. The amperage will depend on the drivers you use. I am not familiar with the drivers linked above.

 

-dave

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jedimasterben

Yes it varies the voltage. During the purchasing process you have to Delfine which current you need on certain channel. See also the FAQ. Many German DIY built their LED fixtures.

Varying the voltage is fine, but depending on what is done for a driver you can waste as much power as is going into the LEDs. CAT4101 drivers used to popular in DIY LED builds. They accept 24v input and output 12-23v, but if your LEDs are only using 12v, then the driver dissipates the remaining 11v as heat, using up 12 extra watts of power for a 1A driver. They've fallen out of vogue for Meanwell LDD and A6211 that don't dissipate that extra wattage and only output enough voltage for the LEDs to use, keeping efficiency at 90-97%.

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For anyone wanting a quick guide to the voltage and wattage requirements of each channel, it is as follows:

 

CH1 (2x Luxeon T 2700K warm white, 1x Luxeon T 4000K neutral white, 2x Rebel ES lime)

  • 13.6v @ 350mA (4.8 watts)
  • 14v @ 700mA (9.8 watts)
  • 14.3v @ 1A (14.3 watts)

 

CH2 (4x Luxeon T royal blue)

  • 10.9v @ 350mA (3.8 watts)
  • 11.2v @ 700mA (7.8 watts)
  • 11.5v @ 1A (11.5 watts)

 

CH3 (2x SemiLEDs C35 violet)

  • 6.8v @ 350mA (2.4 watts)
  • 7.2v @ 700mA (5 watts)

 

CH4 (1x Rebel blue, 1x Rebel cyan)

  • 5.8v @ 350mA (2 watts)
  • 6.2v @ 700mA (4.3 watts)
  • 6.4v @ 1A (6.4 watts)

 

So, with all channels at 350mA, each array uses 13 watts. At 700mA, that goes up to 26.9 watts, and at 1A (still 700mA for violet), it jumps to 37.2 watts. It is recommended to keep them at 700mA to keep the LEDs running cooler, but if you have excellent cooling, you can push the other channels to 1A.

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For anyone wanting a quick guide to the voltage and wattage requirements of each channel, it is as follows:

 

CH1 (2x Luxeon T 2700K warm white, 1x Luxeon T 4000K neutral white, 2x Rebel ES lime)

  • 13.6v @ 350mA (4.8 watts)
  • 14v @ 700mA (9.8 watts)
  • 14.3v @ 1A (14.3 watts)

 

CH2 (4x Luxeon T royal blue)

  • 10.9v @ 350mA (3.8 watts)
  • 11.2v @ 700mA (7.8 watts)
  • 11.5v @ 1A (11.5 watts)

 

CH3 (2x SemiLEDs C35 violet)

  • 6.8v @ 350mA (2.4 watts)
  • 7.2v @ 700mA (5 watts)

 

CH4 (1x Rebel blue, 1x Rebel cyan)

  • 5.8v @ 350mA (2 watts)
  • 6.2v @ 700mA (4.3 watts)
  • 6.4v @ 1A (6.4 watts)

 

So, with all channels at 350mA, each array uses 13 watts. At 700mA, that goes up to 26.9 watts, and at 1A (still 700mA for violet), it jumps to 37.2 watts. It is recommended to keep them at 700mA to keep the LEDs running cooler, but if you have excellent cooling, you can push the other channels to 1A.

Thanks for doing this Ben. :)

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Wow, and the new stuff just keeps on comin...

 

Dave; Ask me anything at all about aircraft or Cardiovascular pathology and i can answer but i'm lost when it comes to electronic circuitry.

So does all this V3 vs V2 array information mean that when i order my Duo (uncle Sam says about another week or less), I will have 4 channel dimming rather than the 2 channel dimming that was on the MiniTide i purchased from you about 6 months ago?

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Wow, and the new stuff just keeps on comin...

 

Dave; Ask me anything at all about aircraft or Cardiovascular pathology and i can answer but i'm lost when it comes to electronic circuitry.

So does all this V3 vs V2 array information mean that when i order my Duo (uncle Sam says about another week or less), I will have 4 channel dimming rather than the 2 channel dimming that was on the MiniTide i purchased from you about 6 months ago?

All come standard with two channel, if you want to upgrade I can do so for a smaller fee.

-Dave

Just to be clear I wanna upgrade my tide/storm which is a 2 channel to the new board with 4 channel would only cost me $55?

Negative, you still need a two extra drivers. Drop me a PM.

-Dave

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About the 2 channel VS 4 channel. Sorry dave, i should have read the entire thread because in your opening post you clearly stated

"I will be offering multi channel units for a small increase in price but all Nano Box units will still come standard with dual channel"

 

Look for my order soon.

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It makes no sense to do this, but I really want a Duo 4 T5 24" hybrid. It really makes no sense because that's 2 times the size of my tank display. It also makes no sense because I don't need one. But I want one.

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It makes no sense to do this, but I really want a Duo 4 T5 24" hybrid. It really makes no sense because that's 2 times the size of my tank display. It also makes no sense because I don't need one. But I want one.

I completely understand where you are coming from though!

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