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Apparently clam is on the menu with them too :o

 

Those starcki's are pricey!!!!!

I don't think this species is known for being a clam-nipper, but the butterflyfish family has some that are.

 

Pricey, but really pretty!

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I don't think this species is known for being a clam-nipper, but the butterflyfish family has some that are.

 

Pricey, but really pretty!

Why so expensive? Are they harder to collect or just because of their beautiful coloration?

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Why so expensive? Are they harder to collect or just because of their beautiful coloration?

They're uncommon, appear to be seasonal.
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They're uncommon, appear to be seasonal.

Live Aquaria seems to be running out of a lot of things. I was going to get flaming prawn gobies but they aren't available now either.
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Ugh, so my CPU is finally starting to show its age. Got it in April 2011 (so almost four years) and rode it HARD at 4.8GHz 1.45v ever since. A few months back, the memory controller went a little funky. It figured itself out and has been running well ever since - until I went to install Windows 10 today and unplugged all but my boot drive. It wouldn't start back up, so I reset the BIOS, it then went into the BIOS, I reset everything how it needed to be, rebooted, and nothing. The CPU diagnostic light on my motherboard stayed lit, meaning something was up with the CPU. I shut power to it, then turned it back on and it went into the BIOS again normally, but when I went to boot to Windows, it just didn't go, the splash screen came up, but no one was home. Sigh.

 

I can get a replacement 2600K for around $200. Or a 4790K for $270 and a motherboard for around $100-110. Hmmm.

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Clearly you need the new motherboard :D

Btw, I upgraded my old Windows Home Server with Windows 10. Piece of cake. Microsoft has continued their "every other version is good" pattern.

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I can get a replacement 2600K for around $200. Or a 4790K for $270 and a motherboard for around $100-110. Hmmm.

 

Devil's Canyon is delicious. Also, if you're willing to spend a tiny bit more SiliconLottery has gotten some pretty good reviews on OCN for pre-binned CPU's. But I'm still on Haswell+Z87 myself, even though Devil's Canyon (and Z97) is all the rage on HWBot these days (especially with competitions).

 

I'd say go for Devil's Canyon, unless you can get a pretty nice 2600K.

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Devil's Canyon is delicious. Also, if you're willing to spend a tiny bit more SiliconLottery has gotten some pretty good reviews on OCN for pre-binned CPU's. But I'm still on Haswell+Z87 myself, even though Devil's Canyon (and Z97) is all the rage on HWBot these days (especially with competitions).

 

I'd say go for Devil's Canyon, unless you can get a pretty nice 2600K.

All said and done I'm spending no more than $375ish, so $330 for a CPU I don't have a motherboard for won't fit lol. Pretty sure I'm going to go for the 4790K (pre-delidded) and an Asrock Z97 Killer.

 

I could also get a 4690K and a cheap mobo for $290, get the Z97 mobo I want for $110, and then sell the MSI Z97 Mate that the CPU comes with for maybe $75. Only problem is that I lose hyperthreading, and that will probably bring the newer i5 down to my current 2600K performance in multithreaded applications (like Lightroom, Illustrator, and Premiere, which I use quite a bit).

 

Decisions, decisions!

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I don't think this species is known for being a clam-nipper, but the butterflyfish family has some that are.

 

You talking about the Copperband butterfly?? Yes, they are clam nippers.... if you can't get a copperband to eat, give it some clam lol

 

All said and done I'm spending no more than $375ish, so $330 for a CPU I don't have a motherboard for won't fit lol. Pretty sure I'm going to go for the 4790K (pre-delidded) and an Asrock Z97 Killer.

 

I could also get a 4690K and a cheap mobo for $290, get the Z97 mobo I want for $110, and then sell the MSI Z97 Mate that the CPU comes with for maybe $75. Only problem is that I lose hyperthreading, and that will probably bring the newer i5 down to my current 2600K performance in multithreaded applications (like Lightroom, Illustrator, and Premiere, which I use quite a bit).

 

Decisions, decisions!

 

Man sounds like alot of shit to think about to watch free porn :lol:

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Well, bought an Asus Z97-A from Amazon and waiting to talk with a guy about a 4790K. It's delidded and the IHS is lapped, and the guy does not have a screenshot of it running (though has pics of the die itself and it looks the same as any of the 4790K dies I see online), so working out a part up front/part after testing deal.

 

 

Luckily, through all of this, I won't even have to take my water loop apart. My current P8Z77-V and the new Z97-A have the CPU socket and PCI-e slots in almost exactly the same spot, so I won't need to shorten/lengthen my tubing. Score!


Man sounds like alot of shit to think about to watch free porn :lol:

Oh, the lengths we'll go :lol:

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I could also get a 4690K and a cheap mobo for $290, get the Z97 mobo I want for $110, and then sell the MSI Z97 Mate that the CPU comes with for maybe $75. Only problem is that I lose hyperthreading, and that will probably bring the newer i5 down to my current 2600K performance in multithreaded applications (like Lightroom, Illustrator, and Premiere, which I use quite a bit).

 

Decisions, decisions!

Those adobe programs are freaking CPU hogs. If you were going pure gaming, I'd happily rock an 4690k, but for graphics programs, you're gonna want that hyperthreading.

 

Ps. You know you want a 5960x....

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Those adobe programs are freaking CPU hogs. If you were going pure gaming, I'd happily rock an 4690k, but for graphics programs, you're gonna want that hyperthreading.

 

Ps. You know you want a 5960x....

Yeah, just paid for the 4790K lol.

 

If I didn't have to invest in DDR4 I probably would have gotten a 5820K. Moar threads moar better.

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All said and done I'm spending no more than $375ish, so $330 for a CPU I don't have a motherboard for won't fit lol. Pretty sure I'm going to go for the 4790K (pre-delidded) and an Asrock Z97 Killer.

 

I could also get a 4690K and a cheap mobo for $290, get the Z97 mobo I want for $110, and then sell the MSI Z97 Mate that the CPU comes with for maybe $75. Only problem is that I lose hyperthreading, and that will probably bring the newer i5 down to my current 2600K performance in multithreaded applications (like Lightroom, Illustrator, and Premiere, which I use quite a bit).

 

Decisions, decisions!

 

 

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Yeah, just paid for the 4790K lol.

 

If I didn't have to invest in DDR4 I probably would have gotten a 5820K. Moar threads moar better.

DDR4 too? I suppose if you're getting a 4790K you might as well, but unless you're going from DDR2 to DDR4 I'm not sold on the performance being big enough to justify it.

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DDR4 too? I suppose if you're getting a 4790K you might as well, but unless you're going from DDR2 to DDR4 I'm not sold on the performance being big enough to justify it.

No, Z97 (socket 1150) for Devils Canyon is still DDR3. Moving to X99 (socket 2011v3) needs DDR4. There is no performance difference between DDR3-1333 and DDR4-xxxx (whatever the fastest speeds are now) except for synthetic benchmarks that test memory bandwidth.

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No, Z97 (socket 1150) for Devils Canyon is still DDR3. Moving to X99 (socket 2011v3) needs DDR4. There is no performance difference between DDR3-1333 and DDR4-xxxx (whatever the fastest speeds are now) except for synthetic benchmarks that test memory bandwidth.

Ah! I misinterpreted what you said earlier. I thought you were saying that you still had to invest in DDR4 which is why I was a bit confused by the whole situation. It was late and I only mostly keep up with the tech when I'm not in a build planning stage.

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Ugh, so my CPU is finally starting to show its age. Got it in April 2011 (so almost four years) and rode it HARD at 4.8GHz 1.45v ever since. A few months back, the memory controller went a little funky. It figured itself out and has been running well ever since - until I went to install Windows 10 today and unplugged all but my boot drive. It wouldn't start back up, so I reset the BIOS, it then went into the BIOS, I reset everything how it needed to be, rebooted, and nothing. The CPU diagnostic light on my motherboard stayed lit, meaning something was up with the CPU. I shut power to it, then turned it back on and it went into the BIOS again normally, but when I went to boot to Windows, it just didn't go, the splash screen came up, but no one was home. Sigh.

 

I can get a replacement 2600K for around $200. Or a 4790K for $270 and a motherboard for around $100-110. Hmmm.

Why are you overclocking bro?! LOL because you can? IT really doesn't make a lick of difference other than waste power and heat and wear. I used to do the same thing. Now i have the 4790k and just run it at standard speeds. I used to do this as well but meh not so much anymore (i think i'm showing my age).

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Why are you overclocking bro?! LOL because you can? IT really doesn't make a lick of difference other than waste power and heat and wear. I used to do the same thing. Now i have the 4790k and just run it at standard speeds. I used to do this as well but meh not so much anymore (i think i'm showing my age).

Makes a pretty noticeable difference in the Adobe suite (Illustrator, Lightroom, and Premiere Pro). Plus, go big or go home ;)

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Makes a pretty noticeable difference in the Adobe suite (Illustrator, Lightroom, and Premiere Pro). Plus, go big or go home ;)

I guess it depends on what you had. But with the new processors like the 4790 they get pretty hot. So the benefits don't outweigh the other issues. But if you have liquid cooling i guess go for it. I also don't use lightroom lol. Isn't lightroom using GPU horsepower now or are they not there yet? I know a lot of programs are now using the streaming type processors in GPU technology.

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I guess it depends on what you had. But with the new processors like the 4790 they get pretty hot. So the benefits don't outweigh the other issues. But if you have liquid cooling i guess go for it. I also don't use lightroom lol. Isn't lightroom using GPU horsepower now or are they not there yet? I know a lot of programs are now using the streaming type processors in GPU technology.

The processors aren't actually making the heat, they use even less power than all others before them. The issue is that the IHS glue is incorrectly applied and holds it just like half a millimeter above the CPU die. The heat cannot be adequately transferred to the heatsink, so the processor appears to be making a lot of extra heat, but the truth is that it just can't go anywhere, hence why people started delidding them to remove the glue and let the IHS rest directly on the die. ;)

 

Lightroom is CPU bound. Only certain actions within the Adobe suite can be GPU-accelerated, the rest just aren't worthwhile to do it.

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