Mstefa1 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Wait dual overflows? What are they overflowing to? Hopefully not the floor. Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hopefully not the floor. LOL, will it be similar to my setup? I ask because you stated you won't have a sump. I'd love to hear more Link to comment
1reefluvr2 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I cant wait for pics im following along on this build ! Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 LOL, will it be similar to my setup? I ask because you stated you won't have a sump. I'd love to hear more Oh the anticipation! Let's hope the snow storm doesn't get to it. Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 LOL, will it be similar to my setup? I ask because you stated you won't have a sump. I'd love to hear more To answer your question, no it's not like yours and no sump as it is an AIO. My plan was for a center overflow with dual return nozzles... That is dual pumps which I choose a pair of Cobalt MJ600s not just a "T" off one pump. The overflow ended up being redesigned probably because too much return flow so now I got dual overflow intakes. You better cut me in on your floss deal JDH! I'm very impressed by the design and can't wait to see it in action. I don't want a Koralia in the tank and seeing as how I've never pulled the trigger on an MP10 for my other tank I'm not sure if I'll get one here. But we will see. A controller will probably come first as I love my Apex on my other tank. I've also considered putting the MJ600s on timers (or controller) to alternate the flow. Not fast switching every minute like my Koralia does but my old digital timers will switch 20 times in a 24hr period so that would mimic alternating flow. But this may play games with my ATO too. I will probably just leave both pumps on 24x7 and see if this is enough flow. Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 To answer your question, no it's not like yours and no sump as it is an AIO. My plan was for a center overflow with dual return nozzles... That is dual pumps which I choose a pair of Cobalt MJ600s not just a "T" off one pump. The overflow ended up being redesigned probably because too much return flow so now I got dual overflow intakes. You better cut me in on your floss deal JDH! I'm very impressed by the design and can't wait to see it in action. I don't want a Koralia in the tank and seeing as how I've never pulled the trigger on an MP10 for my other tank I'm not sure if I'll get one here. But we will see. A controller will probably come first as I love my Apex on my other tank. I've also considered putting the MJ600s on timers (or controller) to alternate the flow. Not fast switching every minute like my Koralia does but my old digital timers will switch 20 times in a 24hr period so that would mimic alternating flow. But this may play games with my ATO too. I will probably just leave both pumps on 24x7 and see if this is enough flow. Oooooh that sounds good. Haha no "deal" for the floss per-say, Still cheaper than my LFS though! I can't wait to see some pics when you get this tank; Don't hold out on us! Link to comment
BadCrab Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 If both tanks are in the same area of your home, you should be able to use the existing Apex to control both right? Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 If both tanks are in the same area of your home, you should be able to use the existing Apex to control both right? Correct as I currently have an Apex lite, but that would involve running an extremely long USB cable and the only company I know that makes one runs about $50 for the cable. Then I would need an EB8 (or EB4) as well as a PM1 (or PM2) for temperature control plus buying the temp probe. Clearly that would end up costing more then an Apex JR. The only thing with buying a JR is that I would need another wireless adapter but I could run cat5 if I wanted but I just wont. Oooooh that sounds good. Haha no "deal" for the floss per-say, Still cheaper than my LFS though! I can't wait to see some pics when you get this tank; Don't hold out on us! I'm eagerly waiting for UPS to update with the delivery date. How long did yours take to ship? I'd love to have it in my hands on Monday but I don't know the shipping speed or if the storm will have any affect even though the weather isn't bad in my area. Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I'm eagerly waiting for UPS to update with the delivery date. How long did yours take to ship? I'd love to have it in my hands on Monday but I don't know the shipping speed or if the storm will have any affect even though the weather isn't bad in my area. It took a total of 5 calendar days, which is amazing considering i'm in Canada! How long has it been for you so far? Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 It took a total of 5 calendar days, which is amazing considering i'm in Canada! How long has it been for you so far? Got the tracking # yesterday, supposed to ship today. I'm in PA near the East coast. Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Got the tracking # yesterday, supposed to ship today. I'm in PA near the East coast. I would guess you should probably get it by mid next week. I realize there is some weather issues though, but IME that doesn't have that much of an effect on the shipping as people think. How servere is this storm? Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 I would guess you should probably get it by mid next week. I realize there is some weather issues though, but IME that doesn't have that much of an effect on the shipping as people think. How servere is this storm? Didn't even get a flurry! It will arrive on Monday - perfect timing! Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Didn't even get a flurry! It will arrive on Monday - perfect timing! Thats awesome! Looking forward to photos Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Debating how much live rock I should go for. I have 20lbs in my 24g. I was thinking ~10lbs in this tank which should be around 15g. Probably go with smaller pieces that I can epoxy together. How much dry rock did you put in your 10g? Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 It wouldn't register on my scale at home, but if I had to guess, it was probably somewhere around about 6-7lbs Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 It wouldn't register on my scale at home, but if I had to guess, it was probably somewhere around about 7-8lbs Ok, thanks. In the future, weight yourself. Then pick up the object and weight yourself again holding the object in your hands. Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ok, thanks. In the future, weight yourself. Then pick up the object and weight yourself again holding the object in your hands. Hah, didn't even think to do that. I just roughly figured it out because I was sent three large peices or rock (fairly equal size) totaling 25lbs from BRS. I used one peice for the scape and have two left over and some "rubble" (about a medium baggie full) LOL, Sounds lke the first part to an Elementary Problem Solving question Link to comment
brad908 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Correct as I currently have an Apex lite, but that would involve running an extremely long USB cable and the only company I know that makes one runs about $50 for the cable. Then I would need an EB8 (or EB4) as well as a PM1 (or PM2) for temperature control plus buying the temp probe. Clearly that would end up costing more then an Apex JR. The only thing with buying a JR is that I would need another wireless adapter but I could run cat5 if I wanted but I just wont. . Did you look on Monoprice.com for USB cable? Not sure how long you need, but def the cheapest prices Link to comment
BadCrab Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 That is the method we use the weigh my cat (lol) Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Did you look on Monoprice.com for USB cable? Not sure how long you need, but def the cheapest prices no but do they sell 50'? Link to comment
brad908 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 no but do they sell 50'? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030312&p_id=7532&seq=1&format=2 49 foot extender Link to comment
MeepNand Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Correct as I currently have an Apex lite, but that would involve running an extremely long USB cable and the only company I know that makes one runs about $50 for the cable. Then I would need an EB8 (or EB4) as well as a PM1 (or PM2) for temperature control plus buying the temp probe. Clearly that would end up costing more then an Apex JR. The only thing with buying a JR is that I would need another wireless adapter but I could run cat5 if I wanted but I just wont. Can't you just splice multiple usb cables together? Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030312&p_id=7532&seq=1&format=2 49 foot extender My understanding is this won't work with Apex as it is an active cable. Apex uses a standard USB cable however delivers different voltages. Link to comment
Mstefa1 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Can't you just splice multiple usb cables together? I could but I won't for the same reason I won't connect 5 extension cords together. The cable needs to be rated for the load and the distance. Not to mention that we are sending data here and I'd rather not deal with signal loss. A PM1, EB4, & Temp probe costs about $235. Not including the long USB cable needed to connect it to my lite. A complete Apex jr is only $219. So unless you are telling me that the Apex jr is crap compared to the Apex lite then it's a no brainer to me. Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Nice choice on the Apex. That would be my choice as well. I have to agree; the super-long USB cable probably wouldn't suffice for data streaming. Link to comment
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