dacdaddy Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 The XT-E star hyper violets can handle 700ma. They have a far higher C/W than the old-style stars with the round package. An LDD can push 13x of them since their Vf is 3.4v. At 700ma, Steve's M has exactly 4.5 times the output of an XT-E 'Q' bin at the same current, per blasterman, measured by the proper equipment. Rebel ES would be the same as an XT-E. You like the hyper violets because of the 430nm wavelength correct? Would you run all these at 700ma, and the Bridgelux at 1000ma, or what are your plans for the current? Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 All my Bridgelux, Luxeon, and Rebel chips will be on 1000ma drivers, the HV will be on 700ma. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Hey Jedi, has anyone combined a normal DIY fixture with some small DIY spotlights to highlight large corals? Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I'm sure someone has, but I've never seen it. It would look inconsistent with the rest of the light and probably not very good. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 K, I thought that would be BA on my 20 x 10 x 18 soon to be reef. What if the spotlight was a TV or HV dimmed way down? It would make a certain coral look incredible without making a weird cone of light, making the whole tank super blue, or melting the coral(s). I think I'll still try it, I'm to damn curious damnit! Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 The XT-E star hyper violets can handle 700ma. They have a far higher C/W than the old-style stars with the round package. An LDD can push 13x of them since their Vf is 3.4v. LDD output voltage is listed at 2-52 V Vf=3.4 52/3.4= 15.29. Even factoring in loss of voltage, why couldn't they push 15? Is it because you're powering them with a 48V power supply? Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 LDD output voltage is listed at 2-52 V Vf=3.4 52/3.4= 15.29. Even factoring in loss of voltage, why couldn't they push 15? Is it because you're powering them with a 48V power supply? Yep. If you tune the power supply up to 56v, you can run more, but on a stock or non-adjustable 48v supply, 13 is the max. Link to comment
Tripwyr Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Where I got the numbers from in nature: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/10/aafeature That article is very interesting, and really clarifies a lot of the current thought processes behind LED lighting. What interests me most though is this paragraph: One watt of optical power radiated at the 555nm wavelength corresponds to 683 lm. For any other wavelengths, it is equal to the optical power emitted at that wavelength multiplied by the luminosity function of the eye for the same wavelength. To determine total lumens emitted by a light source we need to sum up the lumens for all emitted wavelengths. Correct me if I am wrong (EDIT: I am wrong, see edit below), but what I take from this is: 1 Watt (1000mW) of radiometric output = 683 lm @ 555 nm lm @ XXX nm = mW @ XXX nm * f(XXX) where f(XXX) is the luninosity function of the eye @ XXX nm From this we can conclude that (mW @ XXX nm) * 0.683 = lm @ XXX nm. Unless I am wrong on the above, this allows us to directly compare a white LED's output to a royal blue LED's output by dividing the lumen output of the white LED by 0.683. This could serve as a more useful metric rather than trying to subjectively determine the white:blue balance. For example, your Evil Cluster build uses approx. 3045mW of 4000k white light to 18000mW of royal blue. This obviously isn't a be-all-end-all measurement, but it seems more useful than the current metrics, and at least now we are using the same unit measurements. It still varies based on colour temperature and the royal blue wavelengths. EDIT: I just realized where I went wrong on this. I made the following (wrong) conclusion: lm @ XXX nm = mW @ XXX nm * f(XXX) lm @ XXX nm = mW @ XXX nm * 0.683 Therefore: mW @ XXX nm * 0.683 = mW @ XXX nm * f(XXX) If we divide by mW @ XXX nm, we get: 0.683 = f(XXX) Which is incorrect. I'll leave my post anyway as somebody might find some part of the incorrect assumption useful. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 K, I thought that would be BA on my 20 x 10 x 18 soon to be reef. What if the spotlight was a TV or HV dimmed way down? It would make a certain coral look incredible without making a weird cone of light, making the whole tank super blue, or melting the coral(s). I think I'll still try it, I'm to damn curious damnit! Any input? I need a head start before I start researching 24/7 on this. Link to comment
bhazard Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 410-420nm Violet 430nm Hyper Violet 2:1 450nm Royal Blue :"4500k" Neutral White 475nm Blue 495nm Cyan 120 degree angle optics 660nm Red 120 degree angle optics Milad's non XP footprint 430nm Violets and 495nm Cyan were soldered into the fixture. When bought at Group Buy pricing, these chinese fixtures start approaching DIY price points, and have plenty of power. Almost too much. The ability to swap leds and optics DIY style on a clean pcb board is huge. They have plenty of room for improvement though. 4+ channels would be nice to see. http://s10.photobucket.com/user/bhazard/media/IMG_20130512_165506_zpsb44e259c.jpg.html'> Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 More information can be found at: MakersCONTROLLER MakersCONTROLLER just got released for everyone with the MakersDRIVERs that want to do easy sunset/sunrise The MakersCONTROLLER works in combination with MakersDRIVER(s) to create sunrise, sunset and other special effects throughout the day. Once the color ratios have been independently dialed in on the MakersDRIVER knobs, the MakersCONTROLLER scales those ratios up and down to match a user defined schedule. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Neat! Does anyone know any calculations of LED's for fowlrs? Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Like on the planted tanks? Chill, asking cause I found my dream tank, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/zip/3810361776.html Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Like on the planted tanks? Chill, asking cause I found my dream tank, http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/zip/3810361776.html'>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/zip/3810361776.html Dayum that thing looks rough lol. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I can squeeze in there and clean it, I wanted to save up for a long time and set it up as a fowlr w/ a display fuge and a little reef, so a 160g system at least. Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Neat! Does anyone know any calculations of LED's for fowlrs? you only really need a few LEDs lights per 24x24x24 Maybe something like 6 royal blue 3 neutral white 1 OCW Link to comment
1.0reef Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 24 LED's over a 120 I guess Pretty good, less than most other options, I don't have any soldering equipment and I know nothing on leds so I was thinking a 24 led solderless kit from Rapid (Plus they're local) then I could do 12 RB 6 NW 2 Cyan 2 DR 2 CB (Not on tri stars, though) Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 Just to make the full spectrum builds a bit easier. Have a peek at the new Lumia 5.1 - Art created with light Link to comment
MeepNand Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Just to make the full spectrum builds a bit easier. Have a peek at: Milad, you are now god. I have waited for this for too long. Link to comment
lomo Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 is this same as "dream chip" from another forum(s)? Link to comment
MeepNand Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 is this same as "dream chip" from another forum(s)? I think so, but you can buy it without being in a group buy and it uses better leds. Although it looks like there are a ton of violets and fewer RB. Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I think so, but you can buy it without being in a group buy and it uses better leds. Although it looks like there are a ton of violets and fewer RB. 1:1 neutral to RB spectrum too. Anyway, what does this chip look like over a tank!?! Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 This one has 5 channels individually addressable (you can dim them separately). The nice part is that its not just RB and White. We have taken what has worked for our customers and the trend we started with Full Spectrum LED builds that really bring out color in corals and fish and applied it to the LED. You get a full range of royal blues to neutral whites to hyper violets and also the key of making the corals really pop with turquoise and deep red! Exclusive from LEDGroupBuy! Link to comment
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