arwndsh Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Its all relative to perspective. Any tank that has the dimisions of 4 to 1 or 3 to 1 is going to look shallow when you look at the tank as a whole. To say that a tank isn't shallow when it has a 4 to 1 aspect ratio just because in your opinion 2" isn't deep is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Are you also going to say that the big petting tanks at aquariums aren't shallow because they have more than 2ft of water in them? I think you need to come off of whatever overturned milk crate you are standing on and get over yourself and realize its not the measurments but the ratio of length to height that make a tank shallow. Link to comment
GiantBen Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Think the definition if "shallow" is being taken way Too seriously. I shouldn't have asked. Link to comment
msujeff Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Think the definition if "shallow" is being taken wayToo seriously. I shouldn't have asked. haha thanks a lot! Link to comment
Zer0 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Its all relative to perspective. Any tank that has the dimisions of 4 to 1 or 3 to 1 is going to look shallow when you look at the tank as a whole. To say that a tank isn't shallow when it has a 4 to 1 aspect ratio just because in your opinion 2" isn't deep is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Are you also going to say that the big petting tanks at aquariums aren't shallow because they have more than 2ft of water in them? I think you need to come off of whatever overturned milk crate you are standing on and get over yourself and realize its not the measurments but the ratio of length to height that make a tank shallow. I think you need to take that cueball out your ass. No one here is on an "overturned milk crate" trying to preach what is shallow and what is not. Do you see any petting tanks in this forum? Do you see any 8ft tanks in this forum? This here, is called NANO-REEF.com. Most tanks here are under 50G's. The larger tanks are in the Large Tank forum. And EVEN those large tanks that consider themselves to be shallow, are pretty much under 16" for the most part. If we were on a communal forum where NANO was not being emphasized as it clearly is at this forum, then yes, you would be right in thinking a shallow tank is defined by it's depth to height ratio. But we are on a forum dedicated to nano reefs, and we believe shallow is defined as being under 16" with a minimum of 3:1 W:H ratio. If you don't like it, don't ####ing post. Now stop dirtying our thread with your righteous "save all the shallow tanks" crap. This thread is supposed to have pictures of all the shallow tanks in this sub-forum. Not your lectures on what defines a shallow tank. Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 only AB. mine was right on. Link to comment
dtfleming Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I think you need to take that cueball out your ass. No one here is on an "overturned milk crate" trying to preach what is shallow and what is not. Do you see any petting tanks in this forum? Do you see any 8ft tanks in this forum? This here, is called NANO-REEF.com. Most tanks here are under 50G's. The larger tanks are in the Large Tank forum. And EVEN those large tanks that consider themselves to be shallow, are pretty much under 16" for the most part. If we were on a communal forum where NANO was not being emphasized as it clearly is at this forum, then yes, you would be right in thinking a shallow tank is defined by it's depth to height ratio. But we are on a forum dedicated to nano reefs, and we believe shallow is defined as being under 16" with a minimum of 3:1 W:H ratio. If you don't like it, don't ####ing post. Now stop dirtying our thread with your righteous "save all the shallow tanks" crap. This thread is supposed to have pictures of all the shallow tanks in this sub-forum. Not your lectures on what defines a shallow tank. GFY Noob Link to comment
GiantBen Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Sorry for asking...sorry AJ. This thread is wrecked. Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Check this out: I was thinking of getting a 18" deep tank, putting a 4" sand bed in it, and build a stand that came up around the tank, so that only 15" of the tank is exposed. It was NOT going to look like a 3" trim on the tank, but more of a flush look. Would that count? Lol, like it matters. Seriously, I was considering doing this to get a DSB, with a shallow tank look. Sounded cool, but I can't build, so I think I'll just not bother. That sounds like a sweet idea! Post here when you have it set up. I am gonna pretend the last page didn't happen. It's subjective, use rational thought when deciding if your tank is shallow or not. People keep posting your shallow reefs there's gotta be more on here. Link to comment
GiantBen Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 That sounds like a sweet idea! Post here when you have it set up. I am gonna pretend the last page didn't happen. It's subjective, use rational thought when deciding if your tank is shallow or not. People keep posting your shallow reefs there's gotta be more on here. Well, like I said at the end of the post...I'm not so inclined to build the stand, so I may not do it. We'll see. Question about your tank: What setting to you have the MP10 on, so that it isn't blowing sand all over? Link to comment
Psychosis Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'll be posting a little something here in a month or two... 36"x36"x16" with an external overflow and quad returns so I don't have any pesky wet sides in the tank. Maybe a rockwall, not sure that would matter. I'm in love . Worthless with out pictures though, I know. I'm still debating the light situation in the mean time. Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 Well, like I said at the end of the post...I'm not so inclined to build the stand, so I may not do it. We'll see. Question about your tank: What setting to you have the MP10 on, so that it isn't blowing sand all over? I have it on short pulse mode. It is balanced very carefully to get a wave motion while not blasting the sand around. I'll be posting a little something here in a month or two... 36"x36"x16" with an external overflow and quad returns so I don't have any pesky wet sides in the tank. Maybe a rockwall, not sure that would matter. I'm in love . Worthless with out pictures though, I know. I'm still debating the light situation in the mean time. Look forward to seeing pictures of it! Link to comment
Allen_Yan Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Here is my 60cm * 60cm * 28cm shallow tank. Link to comment
Zer0 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Here is my 60cm * 60cm * 28cm shallow tank. Damn.. that's sexy. Nice tank dude. You got a build thread with more pictures? Link to comment
GiantBen Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well, I've just arranged to get a second hand Advanced Acrylics 48x24x12, which should pass all shallow muster. I had seen it on RC a while back, but the guys is in Southern Cal (I'm in Northen Cal). I'm going to Disneyland with the kids in a couple weeks, and we came to an agreement for me to get it while I am down there. Gonna be a long time coming (need to start cycling some rock, build a stand, and get some lighting), but it should be sweet. Anyone have any lighting advise? I really eanted to go LED, but from what I am seeing, most of the fixtures out there don't cover a real wide area. I don't want to get two fixtures and turn them both down to 60%, just seems silly. Link to comment
Zer0 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well, I've just arranged to get a second hand Advanced Acrylics 48x24x12, which should pass all shallow muster. I had seen it on RC a while back, but the guys is in Southern Cal (I'm in Northen Cal). I'm going to Disneyland with the kids in a couple weeks, and we came to an agreement for me to get it while I am down there. Gonna be a long time coming (need to start cycling some rock, build a stand, and get some lighting), but it should be sweet. Anyone have any lighting advise? I really eanted to go LED, but from what I am seeing, most of the fixtures out there don't cover a real wide area. I don't want to get two fixtures and turn them both down to 60%, just seems silly. You could go T5? Link to comment
GiantBen Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 You could go T5? True, I was just hoping to save some bulb money. 6 bulbs x 25 ea 3 times every two years minimum = $$$ Link to comment
Zer0 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 True, I was just hoping to save some bulb money. 6 bulbs x 25 ea 3 times every two years minimum = $$$ Indeed. Then LED's are probably your best bet. Just go with two 24" LED fixtures or something. Or you could DIY yourself some. You shouldn't need all that much since your tank is only a foot tall. Link to comment
psidriven Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 True, I was just hoping to save some bulb money. 6 bulbs x 25 ea 3 times every two years minimum = $$$ What might work for you is a set up using lots of mid watt leds. So you have the spread to cover the large area but not the intensity to bleach the corals. Kind of the reverse of today's high powered leds so unfortunately you might be hard pressed to find something in reef colors. Try looking at hydroponic leds. Those are usually designed to cover more area. Link to comment
Allen_Yan Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Damn.. that's sexy. Nice tank dude. You got a build thread with more pictures? Thank you, Zer0. I am not sure whether I will get a build thread here. Because my Engilish writing skill is not good enough to make you 100% understanding what I mean. But I will try to do that. Link to comment
Zer0 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thank you, Zer0.I am not sure whether I will get a build thread here. Because my Engilish writing skill is not good enough to make you 100% understanding what I mean. But I will try to do that. That sounded pretty good to me. I vote you make a build thread and share some pics. Your tank looks amazing. Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 Here is my 60cm * 60cm * 28cm shallow tank. Sweet looks awesome Allen. Anyone have any lighting advise? I really eanted to go LED, but from what I am seeing, most of the fixtures out there don't cover a real wide area. I don't want to get two fixtures and turn them both down to 60%, just seems silly.True, I was just hoping to save some bulb money. 6 bulbs x 25 ea 3 times every two years minimum = $$$ If you go ATI the t5 bulbs last wayyy longer. Link to comment
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