Awamori Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 If your willing to deal with the hassle and risk.. go for it. It'll look way cool. But make no mistake, it can kill you easy. Link to comment
ryeguy28 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 But make no mistake, it can kill you easy. so can palytoxins ...... Link to comment
JMAdams Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 so can palytoxins ...... Not anywhere near the same... your not going to die by just touching a soft coral. I personally would advise against getting one. Link to comment
Sword Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 What is the min gal requirement for these suckers? 3.1948 × 10^20 gallons? In other words they're better left in the ocean. Link to comment
Awamori Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wikipedia: Palytoxin was originally isolated in 1971 in Hawaii from the seaweed-like coral, "Limu make o hana (Seaweed of Death from Hana)" ..Sweet Link to comment
Sword Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Excellent avatar, Awamori. Link to comment
~Reefur~ Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 so can palytoxins ...... And what % of those affected are in captivity ? .5% %100 of a blue ring or .5% ? Hmmm. Anyone who asks the initial question ( OP ) shouldn't even be allowed to purchase one. Thats like giving a Tiger to a toddler cause they wanted a cat. ( Except the Blue Ring would kill it faster ) What is the min gal requirement for these suckers? LOL - I just realized, this is the first piece of research the OP has done. Link to comment
Awamori Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Excellent avatar, Awamori. Thanks. Wasn't super impressed with thier last album, but I have hope for the future. Link to comment
Walking_Target Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Palys don't squeeze out of tiny holes and slurp their way across the floor. Nor do they have the ability bo bite. TTX will kill you dead inside of 5 minutes; there's no antidote, the best you can hope is somebody finds your ass inside of that window and starts giving you CPR before brain death occurs. Beyond that, they're rare in their natural range (in danger from collection), have a months-long lifespan at best, are highly toxic and expert marine biologists advise AGAINST even handling them, never mind keeping them for pets. I reitterate: If you buy one, you are stupid. Even in a best-case scenario, if you're dumb enough to buy one knowing that, then you're dumb enough to get bitten. Worse yet, think about this... what if you're not the one to find the squishy thing on the carpet? what if it's a freind, neighbour, child, parent, etc that finds it? are they going to know how deadly it is? might they think they're doing a good thing by scooping the poor thing up with their hands to put it back in the tank? This is something that can kill anybody that comes in contact with it. Link to comment
Apoptosis Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Palys don't squeeze out of tiny holes and slurp their way across the floor. Nor do they have the ability bo bite. TTX will kill you dead inside of 5 minutes; there's no antidote, the best you can hope is somebody finds your ass inside of that window and starts giving you CPR before brain death occurs. Beyond that, they're rare in their natural range (in danger from collection), have a months-long lifespan at best, are highly toxic and expert marine biologists advise AGAINST even handling them, never mind keeping them for pets. I reitterate: If you buy one, you are stupid. Even in a best-case scenario, if you're dumb enough to buy one knowing that, then you're dumb enough to get bitten. Worse yet, think about this... what if you're not the one to find the squishy thing on the carpet? what if it's a freind, neighbour, child, parent, etc that finds it? are they going to know how deadly it is? might they think they're doing a good thing by scooping the poor thing up with their hands to put it back in the tank? This is something that can kill anybody that comes in contact with it. /thread Link to comment
Mike Maddox Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 what ??? i know several ppl that have them Lies, or illegally, unless they're participating in some sort of research. I'd close the thread for advocating illegal possession of an animal, but I wouldn't want to miss out on seeing the first blue-ring related Darwin Award that I know of first hand! Link to comment
supernip Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Lies, or illegally, unless they're participating in some sort of research. I'd close the thread for advocating illegal possession of an animal, but I wouldn't want to miss out on seeing the first blue-ring related Darwin Award that I know of first hand! as much as I hate to agree with ryeguy, these things are commonly available in california. I've seen lfs get them in quite often and selling them quite often. also, ryeguy just stfu. Im surprise you havent gotten banned for spewing crap. I wish you'd just state in every post you made that you're 13 so no one listens to you. It would probably save lives. Link to comment
NANOYED Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 What is the min gal requirement for these suckers? you can stuff one in a pico...then pour some formaldehyde in and seal it shut! Start with a lionfish or something! Link to comment
cptbjorn Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 They are extremely dangerous and I think it says something that marine biologists say to leave them alone. But if you want one and are willing to take the risks then go ahead. I'd never even be in the same room as one that is owned by an amateur though. It's octopuses btw. Or octopodes if you like speaking dead languages to sound like a scientist Link to comment
ryeguy28 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 also, ryeguy just stfu. Im surprise you havent gotten banned for spewing crap. I wish you'd just state in every post you made that you're 13 so no one listens to you. It would probably save lives. I'am not 13 though lol Link to comment
supernip Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 15 whatever. another two years of accumulated stupidity doesnt help your case. Link to comment
ryeguy28 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 15 whatever. another two years of accumulated stupidity doesnt help your case. ok fine .... so what should i do Link to comment
tankcrazed Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 there are only 2 confirmed deaths from a blue ring octopus. And one of them was from a diver that didn't know what it was and he put it on his shoulder. Their life span's only a year though Link to comment
supernip Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 ok fine .... so what should i do just think before you post. Link to comment
ryeguy28 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 just think before you post. how do you think i come up with these stupid anwsers ... lol Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Is this for real?! People actually sell/buy, are ALLOWED to sell/buy these things??!! Why not just buy a couple rattlesnakes? Geeze, I wouldn't get within 20 feet of one of those things. Yes, they are beautiful, but I'd prefer to admire them in a photograph or city aquarium. By the way, I work in biological research. I've studied this stuff. Please don't mess with these things guys. You can survive palytoxins, but not superdeadlykillerOCTOpi! Link to comment
johnmaloney Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 blue ring stuff aside... octopus tank would be sweet...where does one find a secure lid for a tank? Any company that makes these for certain fits? I have this cool octopus near my house that chills in this tidepool...everytime I see him though it has some tentacle damage. Stray cats in the area I bet, they cleanup after the fishermen....and probably attack octopus...anyway, a 4 legged octopus sounds sweet... my current tank lid sucks, I have a 72 bow that would work for size for this octopus. Link to comment
violinist Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 a 4 legged octopus sounds sweet... Ahhh, the elusive quadapus. Link to comment
Degener8 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 A have seen where people have custom cut Plexi or had glass cut. Then super glued standard sliding locks to the glass and their tank bezel. It doesnt look bad if done right. The problem with most tanks is the overflow to sump or HOB devices. If you could use an AIO type system it would be great but you would also need to secure the area to the filters/back chambers. Link to comment
johnmaloney Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Ahhh, the elusive quadapus. Link to comment
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