evilc66 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I have just started dosing vitamin C to see if it will help a small colony of zoas recover from a bout of fungus, and for overall tank health. The evidence so far seems pretty compelling, but I would like to know if anyone else has had success dosing with vitamin C. So far, it's looking pretty good, but my dose is pretty low and I need to crank it up a bit. Link to comment
Avengerx77 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 For what is worth, I just started to use Reef Plus by Seachem, which is also a vitamin concentrated. So far, I just put half of the dosis and I can tell the results are amazing. Candy cane is opening wider and some zoas that I was kind of loosing are now starting to cover the LR where they were on. I know is a very short time to tell, but results are coming nicely. I can not wait to see the results with a few more dosis. Link to comment
eklikewhoa Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I loved the stuff! I used it in my Zoa/SPS reef and everything looked great! I still use it in my FW tanks as well as my Macro tank. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 What advantages did you see in your freshwater setup? Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 What kind of Vitamin C are ppl dosing, how much per gallon of tankwater, and how often? Link to comment
reefdan Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I have just started dosing vitamin C to see if it will help a small colony of zoas recover from a bout of fungus, and for overall tank health. The evidence so far seems pretty compelling, but I would like to know if anyone else has had success dosing with vitamin C. So far, it's looking pretty good, but my dose is pretty low and I need to crank it up a bit. vit C is great for softies. i suspect you have a skimmer. if not, i suggest you get one. i still dose C but usually either throw it into my skimmer chamber or put some in my fish food. it's also supposed to help w/ lateral line disease in fish and help clean livers. i noticed my fish seemed healthier (more active) after a few weeks use. if you have a skimmer, you'll notice a bunch of nog after dosing. the C seems to help pull out a lot of crap in the water. if you don't have a skimmer, you're water may develop a yellowish tinge. carbon should clear that up. For what is worth, I just started to use Reef Plus by Seachem, which is also a vitamin concentrated. So far, I just put half of the dosis and I can tell the results are amazing. Candy cane is opening wider and some zoas that I was kind of loosing are now starting to cover the LR where they were on. I know is a very short time to tell, but results are coming nicely. I can not wait to see the results with a few more dosis. i used to use reef plus too but stopped because i noticed the back label listed copper as one of its ingredients. i contacted seachem and they told me the amount in there was fine. lots of people use and like reef plus. i just figured i'd let people know about the copper in it. What kind of Vitamin C are ppl dosing, how much per gallon of tankwater, and how often? i use food grade ascorbic acid powder, buffered to pH 7.1. despite buffering, expect it to swallow up some of your ALK. i was using it w/o measuring ALK a while back and had my ALK drop to 80 ppm! i dose about a half teaspoon everyday into my 40 gallon system. been going at it about 6-8 months. i bought mine from a health food store online and got a huge bottle for like 10 bucks shipped. this isn't mine but will probably work http://www.iherb.com/productdetails.aspx?c...p;utm_medium=f3 make sure it's pure, food grade, and in the powder form. there's a lot out there with fillers and other ingredients. Link to comment
kgehrke Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I've tried it once or twice, it did help. I used off the shelf vitamin C tablets. I dosed 5mg/gallon, once or twice a day. I also removed my carbon while I was using it. Now I just use it if my zoas aren't looking healthy. It does a good job of bringing them out of a deteriorating cycle. Some use it constantly and that seems to work well too. Link to comment
The Propagator Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Looks like I have a new trend to try out ! QUICK ! TO THE PROPAGATORMOBILE !!! *drugstore bound** AWAY !!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 use food grade ascorbic acid powder, buffered to pH 7.1. despite buffering, expect it to swallow up some of your ALK. i was using it w/o measuring ALK a while back and had my ALK drop to 80 ppm! i dose about a half teaspoon everyday into my 40 gallon system. been going at it about 6-8 months. How'd you buffer it? Link to comment
coralcor Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 wate so your like getting C tabs and putting them in your tank and letting them disolve..... hmm Link to comment
The Propagator Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 How'd you buffer it? What he said ! Link to comment
davidr2340 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 You buy it already "buffered"... Here is what I use... Link to comment
burtbollinger Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 here, I used to do it....: BTW, I'm doisng vitamin C....heres the most cut/dry explaination I've seen: from web: You need to be careful dosing the VC. Here is a chart: OK, in short, you should order some Sodium ascorbate or Calcium ascorbate from here: www.i-herb.com. (you use this code: FOR500, you get $5 off at www.i-herb.com.) You can drop it under your skimmer cup. For every 100 gallons: 5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC 10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC 15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC 20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC 25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC 30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC Be sure your pH is around 8.2 & your alk is around 9-10, before you start. Keep an eye on both (I test weekly, now that I notice no changes). The method to be followed in all cases is as follows: Day 1 : concentration of 5 ppm Day 2 : concentration of 15 ppm Day 3 : concentration of 30 ppm Day 4 : concentration of 50 ppm After day 4, continue treating with a concentration of 50 ppm for 10 more days to 30 more days, depending on the severity of what you are treating for. The total treatment period is thus 14-30 days but can last longer if need be. In real severe cases you may need to treat for an additional 7 days or more During this entire period you should not be using activated carbon During this entire period you should not be using any chemical filtration media either (e.g. resins or pads, SuperChem and the like). The skimmer needs to continue to be in operation. Note that when you use these kind of Vitamin C concentrations it really is of utmost importance that you monitor you pH and ensure that it does not suddenly drop. Check the pH before you add the C but check a few minutes later also. If the pH is too low add a complete buffer immediately to re-establish your alkalinity and increase the pH of the water in the tank. This is very important indeed. It is important too, to realize that your dKH must be in the 9 to 10 range to minimize the amount of cloudiness that will develop. It the dKH is high (e.g. 12 or more) you will initially have a lot more cloudiness. This will gradually disappear though as you continue the treatment. Be sure to take some "before" pics! Link to comment
k20fa5 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 You buy it already "buffered"... Here is what I use... How much are you guys dosing? I have some Zoas that have pretty much stopped growing. I would love to give this a try. Thanks, Brian Link to comment
burtbollinger Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 see above chart... Link to comment
evilc66 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm glad to see that others have had good luck with it. I'm starting to see some results after 4 days of dosing low concentrations. A few more polyps of the colony of zoas that got hit with the fungus were a little open today. Best condition they have been in about a month. I have also noticed that my Orange Bam-Bams have better coloring now. The blue ring on the outside of the disc is far more pronounced now. So far so good. Lets keep the comments rolling. Link to comment
Thunderstruck34 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I use Marine C vitamin C, for my 29 gallon (4 drops a day when i do dose)...and yeah i would definitly recommend it... I only use it when fish look ill or dare i say glimpses of ich rear their nasty heads. But have had success with it and glad to see that it has a positive affect on coral too. I only dose tho when something doesn't look/act right. Good stuff tho Link to comment
The Propagator Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ok so how much should we dose per day to reach our goal ? How much is to much ? Link to comment
reefdan Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 You buy it already "buffered"... Here is what I use... yeah i bought mine buffered and use the exact same stuff david posted. it'll last forever Link to comment
evilc66 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 To figure out how much to add, take the system volume (minus rock), multiply it by the desired concentration, then convert to liters. So, for a tank with a system volume of 100g after rock, and a 5ppm desired concentration: 100 x 5 x 3.785 = 1892.5mg Link to comment
The Propagator Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 What is the 3.785 ? Link to comment
chazde3 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 What is the 3.785 ? Converting gallons to liters. Link to comment
The Propagator Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ah ha !! Well I don't need to so ~ Link to comment
evilc66 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Starting with liters Prop? Link to comment
The Propagator Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 No I am starting with gallons. Why do we have to convert it to liters then ? AND... how do we find or where do we find how much to dose per day so as not to over dose ? Link to comment
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