m'akoyPINOY Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 HMMM, .i wonder if it works in my 30g? damn you kmitch!you making me want it!lol Link to comment
MiddReef Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 I agree, you're an enabler! kmitch, if you don't mind me asking, why did you decide to go with the mp20 instead of the mp40w? No plans to add an additional vortech in the future? Or are there other features that I'm not aware of you decided against? Just toying with the idea, I'm attracted to the idea that I could use this on my current small tank and if I ever upgrade use it there too... Thanks! Link to comment
KMitch Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 kmitch, if you don't mind me asking, why did you decide to go with the mp20 instead of the mp40w? No plans to add an additional vortech in the future? Or are there other features that I'm not aware of you decided against? Just toying with the idea, I'm attracted to the idea that I could use this on my current small tank and if I ever upgrade use it there too...Thanks! I like small tanks, don't have any interest in a large tank and don't see myself ever going that route. Plus the pump is the same, it is just a difference of controllers, and if the urge to upgrade ever did hit, I could buy the upgrade. So the pump = same as MP40, only difference is the controller, but this does everything I could ever ask for and more. PS night mode is great, the pump runs at a constant but slower speed for 10 hrs so in the middle of the night anything that wasnt getting blown around earlier gets picked up. And no affect on my overflow in the solana. Link to comment
MiddReef Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 So the 20 also has night mode too then, which is a key feature IMO. Are you using any alternation between the other modes or just leaving it on one? Can it auto cycle fairly easily? Sorry for all the questions, but it's nice to hear a fellow NR opinion about these guys. I might have to pick me up one of these.....lousy reefing habit! Link to comment
xbwolfx Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I'll add also that I bought one of these but the cost didn't seem so bad as it is intended to greatly simplify my tank setup. No drilling extra holes for closed loop, no worries about a jammed SCWD, and as others have mentioned I don't have to put a bunch of extra powerheads in the tank. The cost doesn't seem so bad when you factor those things in (assuming you don't have an all in one tank). +1 I set up an MP20 in my Oceanic 30 cube yesterday and I am soooo happy I chose this pump over a closed-loop. There is absolutely no way a closed-loop could create a wave anywhere close to the wave I am getting on this 30cube. Anyone who thinks this pump is too big for a nano - now way! I have it set on short pulse mode at the maximum speed and the sand stays put (although my sand isn't super fine). Anyone who is on the fence about buying one - stop waiting and go order one from StanD's group buy. Link to comment
KMitch Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 I dont know what you mean by auto cycle-- it goes to night mode automatically at 10 pm every night and returns to normal at 8am, so the 'middle of the night' is calmest in the tank. I don't move between modes right now, I really like where it's at and how my corals, etc are responding so I see no reason to tinker with it. I took another video today with my video camera and I'll upload that in just a min. Agree with X-- if you can get into the group buy that lasts through August you'll save some bling! Link to comment
MiddReef Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Sorry to keep hitting you guys with questions, but after looking up a lot of the specs I'm stuck in the middle....So, I've got a 24 gallon tank right now, but I see myself upgrading to a larger tank within the next couple of years. When I say larger, I mean 125+, so I believe that rules out the MP20 (20-70 gal). However, at the moment, I think my tank might be a touch too small for the MP40w, according to the 500 gph minimum rating. So, basically, the difference between the two is a wireless driver that can communicate between other mp40w's, as well as enables the pump to push more water. All other features are the same, yes? So I'm stuck! Currently leaning towards the mp20 to avoid a monsoon in my Aquapod, but is it shortsighted to pass on the 40w seeing as though I'm planning an upgrade sometime soon? Just thinking outloud here....experiences? Thanks!! Link to comment
KMitch Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 If your upgrade will be years down the road I would say MP20 now, you can upgrade then later, and that way you'll have what is suited best for both tanks right now Link to comment
Wawawang Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 middlereef, The mp20 is the same pump as the mp40 just a different controller. In the future pay 100+ for the mp40 controller and then you have a mp40. The mp20 would work perfectly in a 24 gallon tank. I would probably run on 1/4 power. On my 40 breeder I run it 3/4 power on crest mode. As well as night mode it also has feed mode which it barely turns the prop. I also put it in feed mode to do water changes and it becomes 1/2 submerged and it hardly does any splashing. Link to comment
MiddReef Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Awesome, thanks for the help guys, now to talk this over with the banker...You can never have enough reef toys, right? Link to comment
Urchinhead Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I have to chime in here. I went from 2 x Tunze 6025 and 2 x Tuzne 6045's to ONE MP40W and I get more flow and better flow from it. It puts flow out through out the tank with zero dead zones. Well worth the $$$ and my SPS love the Reef Crest mode and my LPS do as well. Just be careful about blowing out seams over time due to the pressure generated. Link to comment
StanD Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Nice review and I love the tank Only 5 days left on the GB GB link Link to comment
Wawawang Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I have had my MP20 for 2 weeks now and it has stalled 3 times. 2 times from the indicator light and I think 1 time while I was sleeping. The device was completely powered off when I saw it in the morning. I'm assuming it shuts itself down after being stalled for long periods. Resitting the wet and the dry sides fixed the problem and it was back normal after that. Any of you guys experience this? Link to comment
Jombo Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I have had my MP20 for 2 weeks now and it has stalled 3 times. 2 times from the indicator light and I think 1 time while I was sleeping. The device was completely powered off when I saw it in the morning. I'm assuming it shuts itself down after being stalled for long periods. Resitting the wet and the dry sides fixed the problem and it was back normal after that. Any of you guys experience this? Nope, hasn't happened to me. What color was the light blinking? Did you make sure you have the spacer lined up with the correct glass thickness? Link to comment
Wawawang Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nope, hasn't happened to me. What color was the light blinking? Did you make sure you have the spacer lined up with the correct glass thickness? I think i may have it on the wrong thickness. 40 breeders are 3/16 thickness right? Link to comment
badbread Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 What do I like most about my MP20? My corals response to it. I have never seen my frilly mushrooms so plump and happy!!! My unknown SPS frag only use to show about 3-4 polyp's and now there are 15+, my Zoa's are fatter and longer than ever and I can actually see the polyps now on my orange/red/err pink monti cap. This thing is amazing! I am using it in reef crest mode, I saved a wave making setting that is pretty cool but the best response by far is in the preset reef crest mode. $.02 Link to comment
vwcdave Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nice Naked pair in the videos. Yes, I went out of my way to word that sentence that way, but I really did like the clowns. Link to comment
scokill Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Prior to installing the water level was pretty high, and it still is, but the wave height is adjustable so I found the sweet spot where I get the max wave yet still have ample clearance that no water sloshes out Is it LOUD?? I'm tired of loud equipment. I'm intrigued and now you put it on my considering list, which always gets converted to the buy list! Link to comment
badbread Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Is it LOUD?? I'm tired of loud equipment. I'm intrigued and now you put it on my considering list, which always gets converted to the buy list! I hear absolutely nothing from mine, can't hear any noise coming from it over the ambient noise in my house. I don't have the power cranked way up, that may make a difference. Link to comment
MiddReef Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I just got mine last week, and it's really an amazing bit of equipment. Totally satisfied, thanks to StanD for setting up the group buy! All of the modes are interesting, but I've started to stick between either reef crest or a short pulse that works to create a wave in my tank. Blew up a bunch of junk from the rocks for the first 30 minutes or so, but now my corals are all really looking great. Fish seem to like it too, you can tell they react to the surges and get a good workout! Setup was a breeze, and after messing with the thing for a while (you'll want to!) it becomes really easy to understand. Great product, tank looks great with the added motion and without having koralias suspended all over the place. As far as noise goes, mine is really quiet. You can hear it if you put your ear up to it, or if the room goes really quiet. I have a stock 150 W sunpod, and I have not changed out the fan. When the light is on, you cannot hear the vortec at all. When the lights are off, it makes a very minute hum, but really nothing that is annoying or noteworthy. If it does make noise, you can readjust the alignment a bit and usually get it to dissapear. I hate noisy equipment, and this thing passes the test! Depending on your tank size, you might not even have it turned up enough to notice the thing, it's just that quiet. You'll enjoy, give it a shot! Link to comment
dtfleming Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Damn I know I should have went ahead and bought one on the GB. Link to comment
scokill Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Damn! I wish you guys said it was as loud as a jet engine, that way I wouldn't have to think about it anymore! Link to comment
lionman Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Damn! I wish you guys said it was as loud as a jet engine, that way I wouldn't have to think about it anymore! And can you get a nice flow covering all the aqua ? Don't you have "dead" zones ? I was thinking of replacing my 4 Nano Koralia by this one but it always gets me confused the fact of having a single pump. Thanks Link to comment
badbread Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 And can you get a nice flow covering all the aqua ? Don't you have "dead" zones ? I was thinking of replacing my 4 Nano Koralia by this one but it always gets me confused the fact of having a single pump. Thanks I have 0 dead spots, replaced 3 koralia nano's with this one pump Link to comment
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