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I'll have to get back to you on that one. I am assuming that they are dimmed via a dimmer switch, similar to what you would have for accent lighting in a living room (like those big white knobs). I could be completely wrong though :P. The biggest selling point for me though, is that they are crees and they look to have a better heatsink than the 3w ones i have worked with before, which I didn't have good luck with.


Heads up! I just received one of those 3x3w dimmable Cree Led bulbs.
The construction seems to be good and they seem to be bright but they do not pull anywhere close to 9 watts
At full power this 3x3w bulb pulls around 4.8 to 4.9 watts. The leds without any dimming don't look anywhere as bright as the real 3w Cree leds in my DIY fixture
This makes me think that they are being falsely sold as 3w Cree led bulbs.
I have contacted the seller on ebay ( this is the seller : http://myworld.ebay.com/wiseller/ )
lets see what he has to say.

This is the bulb I bought :

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interesting. I dont know too much about the actual electronics of this, but is it possible that the lack of brightness be due to the fact that they are probably driven at 400mA where as yours are probably driven at ~900mA? does the spectrum appear correct? I expect these to pull around 6-7 watts since the 1x3w ones actually pull just over 2 watts, which is good for the longevity of the emitters.

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The bulb I mentioned above is pulling 4.9 watts at 700 mA.
The color is around 10K
I should also mention that the bulb gets pretty warm after running for 15 minutes

Edited by devmasa, 31 March 2012 - 12:19 PM.


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The bulb I mentioned above is pulling 4.9 watts at 700 mA


wow, they are actually driven 700 mA? surprising.

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Cool fixture. what size of tank is this going over? I was goin to but 10gu10 over my 10g. maybe thats too much?
got any pics of it over your tank. I wanna see how high up you need that light.

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Cool fixture. what size of tank is this going over? I was goin to but 10gu10 over my 10g. maybe thats too much?
got any pics of it over your tank. I wanna see how high up you need that light.

naw, anywhere from 8 to 10 will be perfect

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The bulb I mentioned above is pulling 4.9 watts at 700 mA.
The color is around 10K
I should also mention that the bulb gets pretty warm after running for 15 minutes


3x3w in that bulb fixture is going to burn out for prolonged usage w/o active cooling.
the heatsink size is identical in size to the 3x1W epistar bulb but looks to have open slits in the heatsink. The epistar bulb heatsink is solid from luckdzl and after 6 hours of use it gets very warm.

The middle bulb is 5x1W and that gets burning hot.

The one of the right is a 3x3W and the heatsink makes it warm.

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Does anyone know how deep the GU10s will penatrat into sw with optic off?
Jus wanna be sure 3 bulbs 2blue 1 white will cut it for a mixed 9" cube.
I did keep optic on and it will pentrat at least 12" under sw. no issues.

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Does anyone know how deep the GU10s will penatrat into sw with optic off?
Jus wanna be sure 3 bulbs 2blue 1 white will cut it for a mixed 9" cube.
I did keep optic on and it will pentrat at least 12" under sw. no issues.


I have a standard 29G tank, I use a blue bulb no optics for moon lighting and it has no problems reaching all the way to the bottom.

Now what I can't answer is how intense it is at varying depths.

Edited by bizzarro, 01 April 2012 - 11:59 AM.


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I wouldn't run with anything greater than 60 degree optics(I.E. only run 30, 45, or 60 degree) on anything deeper than 10". In my opinion the reason these seem to do so well compared to other 1w LEDs is due to the tight optics causing higher par values, and better penetration. The beam is gonna be like 120 degrees without optics, and the penetration will be much less

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I wouldn't run with anything greater than 60 degree optics(I.E. only run 30, 45, or 60 degree) on anything deeper than 10". In my opinion the reason these seem to do so well compared to other 1w LEDs is due to the tight optics causing higher par values, and better penetration. The beam is gonna be like 120 degrees without optics, and the penetration will be much less



3 bulbs no optic over a 3g pico. 4" off water line. tank is only 9" tall.
Should be alright for lps.

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Hi All,

I just finished my frag tank build. I am only lighting a very small area so I only used 3 bulbs. I plan on doing another 3 shortly, once I have more frags. Here are the pix
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Aqueon Evolve 8 mixed reef with Aqueon Pro 50w heater and Ebay Par 30 led lamp

-Nick's Discontinued Not So Nano 120 Gallons of Ocean -
http://www.nano-reef...p;#entry4087252
 
-Nick's Discontinued Not So Nano 120 Gallon DIY Led Build - http://www.nano-reef...iy-led-fixture/

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Just purchased 7 blue and 6 cool white bulbs 4x1 with 45 degree optics from led-hk. got the sockets and ordered some of these to connect the sockets to the extension cord. anyone have any experience with these or think that they'll work?

I'll be building a canopy to go over my JBJ nanocube24 and will mount everything into the canopy. Super excited! I'll post updates as things progress.

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Those are awesome and work really well, you will like them and they are fast. :)

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Those are awesome and work really well, you will like them and they are fast. :)


just what i wanted to hear :D

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Just purchased 7 blue and 6 cool white bulbs 4x1 with 45 degree optics from led-hk. got the sockets and ordered some of these to connect the sockets to the extension cord. anyone have any experience with these or think that they'll work?

I'll be building a canopy to go over my JBJ nanocube24 and will mount everything into the canopy. Super excited! I'll post updates as things progress.


Why you ghetto rigging your wiring with those crap ass quick connects? They'll work but god knows for how long. You would have been much happier with the 3x1w with individual optics.

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Haha they aren't ghetto, that is what they are made for mine has been working for at least six months no problems. :)

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Haha they aren't ghetto, that is what they are made for mine has been working for at least six months no problems. :)


Well, if they arent ghetto, they are made for ppl who are too lazy to strip a wire and crimp on a butt splice :P. In all honesty I look at those as something that is temporary at best, and should be used as such. Thats why they are removable :)

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Hey guys and gals

inspired by this thread, I just finished a fixture of my own. I have a standard 29G tank with SPS, clams and anemones. I have 27 bulbs of the 3x1W gu10 30 Degree lens. 14 of them are blue and 13 are cool white. Is this going to be good enough light. Compared to the other tanks in this thread I think I may have over did it but the light doesn't look that strong.

Any input?

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Over the weekend i ordered:

30: sockets
5: 3x3w Cree Cool White 60 deg-Dimmable
http://www.ebay.com/...9#ht_4104wt_905
9: 4x1w Blue 45 deg
http://www.ebay.com/...#ht_2592wt_1185
9: 3x1w Blue 30 deg
http://www.ebay.com/...9#ht_2107wt_952


CANNOT wait to see how it looks. Im only planning on using 16 or so blues while mixing and matching 30's and 45's in the "B45B45" section of the front. These two areas will ideally shine back onto the front of the rock work to minimize shadowing. Im also toying with the idea of having 2 warm whites (w/o optics) shining back instead of 2 of the blues.

B30_ _ _ _B30_ _ _ _ B30_ _ _ _B30_ _ _ _B30

W60_B45_W60_B45_W60_B45_W60_B45_W60

B30_ _ _B45B45_ _ _B30_ _ _B45B45_ _ _B30

This is going into a old current usa 6 bulb t5 fixture. I cut it down to 24". I will be running the 2 original cooling fans along with the splash guard. Im thinking about hanging 10" from the surface over my 26 bow front.


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Any chance the 3x3w dimmables will run at a higher wattage with better cooling?

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for my 9" cube I simply removed the optic lenses and left the gaurd off. and starting using it. 3" over water. This should work?

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Make sure they have thermal expoxy or they will fall off since the lenses hold them in place.

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Anyone tried contacting the seller of the epistar bulbs(luckzdl2008)?
I asked him if it would be possible to get these with 2 white/1 blue but he doesn't answer.

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[quote name='Swip' date='Apr 8 2012, 02:24 PM' post='3821356']
Anyone tried contacting the seller of the epistar bulbs(luckzdl2008)?
I asked him if it would be possible to get these with 2 white/1 blue but he doesn't answer.
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I did not even know we could get this. nice.

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The 2:1s are good for picos, but on anything larger, I really prefer to have the ability to operate whites and blues independently...