malla1ml Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Back at work but yes, the baskets they used was a conscience business decision. There is a ton of room for the baskets to move around or more precisely are better suited for their customcaddy. This is my first nano-tank in about 3 years. My last one was a Nano-Cube but currently run a Elos 70. The build quality on the IM is very nice. Also, sorry about the crappy pictures. I broke my good phone last week and haven't replaced it. So currently using my beat up S3. Link to comment
nano-cali Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Back at work but yes, the baskets they used was a conscience business decision. There is a ton of room for the baskets to move around or more precisely are better suited for their customcaddy. This is my first nano-tank in about 3 years. My last one was a Nano-Cube but currently run a Elos 70. The build quality on the IM is very nice. Also, sorry about the crappy pictures. I broke my good phone last week and haven't replaced it. So currently using my beat up S3. Haha no worries on the phone pictures, i think ill wait and see if InTank comes out with a basket Link to comment
frootbat Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It looks like the difference in size between the Nuvo 16 and Fusion 20 media basket chambers is .05" if I am reading the specs correctly. Link to comment
Marine Depot Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Haha no worries on the phone pictures, i think ill wait and see if InTank comes out with a basket Innovative Marine's website states the smallest CustomCaddy (the one for the 16) fits both the Fusion Nano 10 and the Fusion Nano 20, although we have yet to try/confirm this ourselves. Link to comment
jbb Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I don't understand why they just don't use the custom caddy from the get go instead of making people buy extra pieces Link to comment
nano-cali Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I don't understand why they just don't use the custom caddy from the get go instead of making people buy extra pieces Very true Link to comment
Obsessed Reefer Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Simple fact of they generate more profit that way. Also my tank shipped!!!!!!!! Link to comment
jbb Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I understand that , but why not include the better product and increase the base price just a bit. Link to comment
Ruckus16 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 What kind of lighting is everyone going put over the 20? Link to comment
dormreefer Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Raising the base price turns away consumers though. Once you have the product you are "trapped" into buying add ons What kind of lighting is everyone going put over the 20? Radion XR15Pro Link to comment
frootbat Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I just have a duncan colony, zoas and shrooms, so I'm just going to use a Current Orbit Marine...no point in spending $500+ on a light for them, I'm thinking. Link to comment
dormreefer Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Buy the "best light" within your budget. If you know what direction you want to go with your tank it should be easier and you're right no point over spending if you don't need it unless you plan to change directions in the future. A pair of PAR 38 lights on gooseneck would look cool IMO Link to comment
Ruckus16 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I was thinking the same thing about the par bulbs. I have 2 par38 full spectrum by rapid laying around. Unfortunately they are the 60° lenses.... Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I understand that , but why not include the better product and increase the base price just a bit. That's why i like my PicO. No need to upgrade anything. The media basket it came with is great. The pump is sufficient. But it does cost more so it evens out in the end. Link to comment
ReviloM Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think they should have gone with better baskets for the filtration area... That's because it's a marketing ploy. Make crappy baskets so that you would buy the "upgraded" basket versions. Same thing with the tank, which doesn't have an efficient AIO filtration. They won't release a fully efficient AIO tank because then they won't be able to release a new tank every year to keep up with the fad of reefers. IMO these tank lines are the most over-hyped. Link to comment
nano-cali Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 That's because it's a marketing ploy. Make crappy baskets so that you would buy the "upgraded" basket versions. Same thing with the tank, which doesn't have an efficient AIO filtration. They won't release a fully efficient AIO tank because then they won't be able to release a new tank every year to keep up with the fad of reefers. IMO these tank lines are the most over-hyped. You dont have to buy a whole new AIO just some upgrades. Link to comment
ReviloM Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You dont have to buy a whole new AIO just some upgrades. Reading comprehension is fundamental.... A company does not release a "perfect" product simply because if they did, they will be limited to that one release of the product. An example would be Apple iPhones. More money can be made by simply creating imperfect products then improve it the next year in a "new" product release. Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Reading comprehension is fundamental.... A company does not release a "perfect" product simply because if they did, they will be limited to that one release of the product. An example would be Apple iPhones. More money can be made by simply creating imperfect products then improve it the next year in a "new" product release. A product is never perfect. If a company waits to develop a "perfect" product, they will never release. You have to release something to get feedback. Of course, you would want to release something good enough so people will want to use it and actually give you feedback. It's actually good that technology is constantly improving. Link to comment
ReviloM Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 A product is never perfect. If a company waits to develop a "perfect" product, they will never release. You have to release something to get feedback. Of course, you would want to release something good enough so people will want to use it and actually give you feedback. It's actually good that technology is constantly improving. No, perfection is when an product operates as intended. Marketing 101 simply states you give the public what your ideal perfection is but in an existing market that "ideal perfection" must surpass the existing products. In IM case, their AIO filtration is a step back. There are existing AIOs such as fluval specs that surpass its current releases. It's over-hyped simply because it is new. I have the 16G and the 30L. I have had small AIO tanks from petco that performed better than those do at filtration right out the box. Link to comment
jbb Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The stock fluval spec "media basket" is just a big sponge with carbon and ceramic rings crammed into it. That is really nothing to be proud of imo. None of the water is forced through the carbon therefore it's pretty much useless . Link to comment
ReviloM Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The stock fluval spec "media basket" is just a big sponge with carbon and ceramic rings crammed into it. That is really nothing to be proud of imo. None of the water is forced through the carbon therefore it's pretty much useless . I was just painting a picture. Anyways just take a look at my build thread. Link to comment
jbb Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Ive seen it, you had cloudy water and blamed the tank. Even if it had been a sumped system you could have ran into the same problem. An AIO tank with poorly made media baskets isn't going to cause cloudy water. Link to comment
dormreefer Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 If you so concerned with utilizing carbon then perhaps even buy a reactor? Even buying additional baskets via IM or InTank is still a minor upgrade cost. Seems like nitpicking to me. But then again I consider $200 shipped a good value for a 20 gallon AIO Link to comment
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