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I agree with Jedimasterben on this one. I would do a minimum of 4 if not more. A quad which is dave's light fixture that I'd 24" long and has 4 pucks can cover a 36 inch tank, so I would say 4 or more.

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K cool 4 it is. Would be simpler to wire than 3 anyway since I have 1600ma LDD's from O2Surplus so I can do sets of 2 in series and then those two sets in parallel.

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K cool 4 it is. Would be simpler to wire than 3 anyway since I have 1600ma LDD's from O2Surplus so I can do sets of 2 in series and then those two sets in parallel.

Just be careful with running in parallel. Put a resistor on it so if something fails as well.

 

-Dave

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K so I used this current limiting resistor calculator to figure out the protection circuit for running a series set of pucks in parallel so that each channel of all 4 pucks could be run off a 1600ma LDD.

http://www.theledlight.com/resistancecalculator.html

 

I added up an estimate of the voltages of the pucks and came up with this:

 

white channel - ~21V

blue channel - ~20V

 

So based on this and doing a max limit of 1000ma on the blue channel and 750ma on the white channel it spit out an 8ohm resistor for both. Found this one at amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Mounted-Aluminum-Wirewound-Resistors/dp/B008MKZMIU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-1&keywords=amico+8+ohm+resistor

 

So if this is correct I would need 4 of those resistors each going to the + of each set of series channels coming from the LDD.

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jedimasterben

Wait, so you're planning on running four pucks, in parallel, from an LDD-1600L? That will give 400mA to each puck's channel. You cannot run two pucks in series on the LDD-L, you must purchase LDD-H and use 48v input for that.

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Really? That seems like a lot. So a puck every 6 inches on a 24in heatsink?

Not to me.

 

6 would be my minimum. On the 90P.

 

Then run them far cooler than max. For coverage, not intensity.

 

I would still sink some fans in the heatsink, even with them running cooler.

Noctua makes a 92mm by 14mm thick, will fit in a 1 inch heatsink well. And then run that low as well. They have smaller diameter 14mm fans too, for small sinks.

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jedimasterben

I think farkwar means 1 inch thick.

OHHHHHH. I see what he means now. Basically he's saying that they should buy a mill and cut the heatsink fins out to sink fans into it so they're flush on the top. Not a very cost-effective solution lol.

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What is a CNC router?

 

Its a router, right? Controlled by a computer.

 

Im sure even a clumsy human controlled router can make a simple circle or square in thin aluminum fins.

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17473/fan-1140/Noctua_NF9X14PWM_92_x_14mm_PWM_Fan_NF9X14PWM.html?tl=c365s1799b32&id=n49D8Fuj

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009NQM7V2/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

 

They even come with a prebuilt resistor to down voltage their speed and dB.

 

And then you cover the top with this...

 

http://www.metalsdepot.com/products/alum2.phtml?page=Perforated%20Aluminum%20Sheet&LimAcc=%20&aident=

 

Powdercoated or anodized to match your powdercoated or anodized heatsink.

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And by 1" heatsink I mean the 1.3" heatsinks. Where the .3" is the base, and the fins are 1" tall. HeatsinkUSA has like 6 different sized profiles based on this 1.3 form factor(its almost a standard size).

 

An inch is 25.4mm, so if you rout or dremel down the 14mm in the fins, you have 11.4mm for draw. Plenty of room.

 

If you dremeled it out freehand, it could nt take but half an hour max.

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Wait, so you're planning on running four pucks, in parallel, from an LDD-1600L? That will give 400mA to each puck's channel. You cannot run two pucks in series on the LDD-L, you must purchase LDD-H and use 48v input for that.

 

I have O2Surplus' LDD chips which are 48V, 1600ma. I was planning on running 2 pucks in series and then take those two sets of pucks that are in series and run them in parallel for 800ma per channel.

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jedimasterben

I have O2Surplus' LDD chips which are 48V, 1600ma. I was planning on running 2 pucks in series and then take those two sets of pucks that are in series and run them in parallel for 800ma per channel.

Ok, so they aren't LDD, you're good then.

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Ok, so they aren't LDD, you're good then.

 

Yeah haha I should have said LDD like in that they are the same size and go into LDD boards. So the 8 ohm resistor for the protection circuit is also the right one? Want to protect the set of pucks so that if one parallel'd set fails the other doesn't get the full 1600ma blast.

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jedimasterben

Yeah haha I should have said LDD like in that they are the same size and go into LDD boards. So the 8 ohm resistor for the protection circuit is also the right one? Want to protect the set of pucks so that if one parallel'd set fails the other doesn't get the full 1600ma blast.

I honestly couldn't tell you anything about resistors that you'd need, but to prevent too much current if one string blows then you need fast-blow fuses that are rated for a bit more current than you're giving each string.

 

Also, make sure that your LED PCB are on the same heatsink to help prevent thermal runaway on each parallel string.

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jedimasterben

Ok, so this is a basic list or what you need to make a complete 'kit' to run these pucks. Had the list almost 100% complete before Dave got back to me and said he was working on a list, too, but I figured I'd put this up anyways. This is not the most inexpensive way to do it, but this will arguably be about the best looking and have the best power delivery without getting much more expensive.


CH1: 21.6v each puck, ~15w @ 700mA
CH2: 18.2v each puck, ~13w @ 700mA


To run a one puck:
1x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 6"
2x Meanwell LDD-700H
1x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-40H-48
1x 12v 500mA power supply (for fan)
1x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fan)
1x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.


To run two pucks:
2x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 12"
2x Meanwell LDD-700H
1x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-60H-48
1x 12v 500mA power supply (for fan)
1x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fan)
1x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.

To run three pucks:
3x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 18"
4x Meanwell LDD-700H
1x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-100H-48
1x 12v 500mA power supply (for fan)
1x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fan)
1x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.

To run four pucks:
4x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 24"
4x Meanwell LDD-700H
1x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-40H-48
1x 12v 500mA power supply (for fans)
1x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fans)
1x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.


To run five pucks:
5x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 24-36"
6x Meanwell LDD-700H
2x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-40H-48
1x 12v 500mA power supply (for fans)
1-2x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fans) (use two if using 36" heatsink as there are three fans)
1x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.


To run six pucks:
6x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 36-48"
6x Meanwell LDD-700H
2x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-185H-48
1x 12v 5A power supply (for fans)
2x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fans)
2x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.

To run seven pucks:
7x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 48"
8x Meanwell LDD-700H
2x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-240H-48
1x 12v 5A power supply (for fans)
2x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fans)
2x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.


To run eight pucks:
8x Nanobox 13up board
1x MakersLED heatsink, 48-60"
8x Meanwell LDD-700H
2x Coralux 5up LDD board
1x MakersLED hanging kit
1x Meanwell HLG-240H-48
1x 12v 5A power supply (for fans)
2-3x 4-pin to 3-pin converter (for fans) (use 3x if using 60" heatsink as it has five fans)
2x tube thermal paste
Wire (measure how much you will need and then add 20%)

This will give you an on/off array only. If you want control, you'll need to purchase a controller. You can use the Storm, Storm X, Typhon, or Bluefish.

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Well technically you can run 4x of these pucks with 2x LDD-1000H but you would only get a max of 500ma off each puck.

 

Basically you put them in sets of two and wire each set in series. Then you take those 2 sets that are in series and wire them in parallel to the LDD.

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Today I get to finish my light and upon closer look at the pucks I noticed that both channel 2 solder points are labeled 2V+.

 

IMG_20140915_164920.jpg

 

Is it safe to assume that first two are + and last two are -?

 

1V+ 2V+ 2V- 1V-?

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