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More pics...

 

Wanted to see how these things looked with water in the tank. Here is the Moon Glow - Dimmed to lowest setting in a completely dark room. Illumination is by 4 luxeons 1wt white stars- dimmed.

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And now at 100% - you should be able to get a pretty good idea of the light that only 4 luxeons is capable of throwing.... the shimmer is fantastic... like micro metal halides.

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One more for now... I'll post more on the light hood when the other 8 bulbs show up along with the heat sink... this photo illustrates 4 luxeons lighting up a 2.5g tank - this time the room is also illuminated with two 100wt incandescents... again.. this should leave a great impression of the color temp of the bulbs. This is about as close as I can get the camera to rendering the scene... I think the digital photo turned out with a bit more green/yellow then real life... should give you an idea of the intensity and relative color to the soft white incandescents in the house....

 

-Bill

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Great thread Pirate. Keep it coming. How is heat with the 4 LED's at full? Are you using a temp gun? I guess that little plastic canopy makes me a bit nervous.

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Originally posted by palaegic

How is heat with the 4 LED's at full? Are you using a temp gun? I guess that little plastic canopy makes me a bit nervous.

 

Using a heat gun after a good 5min of run time I measured 128deg on the emitter surface... I pulled the plug at this point as the LED's are not coupled to a heat sink... worried about thermal damage to the stars I pulled the plug until I can mount them to the heat sink... The back-side of the units is made of aluminium... it felt about as warm as the front but the gun wouldn't take a reading off of the surface... heat is far less then that of a 13wt compact flour. light.

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I did a bit more research on the Luxeons befor really letting them crank without a heat sink. According to Lumileds the luxeons that are pre-mounted to the aluminum PCB may be run without a heatsink. Thus, I let the unit run for 15min in a 70deg room and measured the temp at the base of the LED. The highest temp I could sense with the temp gun was 142deg then I placed the unit on a 2"x2"x.25" CPU type heat sink and let it run for another 15 min - this dropped the temp down to 136deg... note the unit was not mechanically connected to the heat sink... just resting atop it. Next I placed the unit on a 2"x4" heat sink with 1" fins... temp dropped down to 120deg...

 

Why is all this important? The light ouput decreases and shifts with temp increase... According to the lumileds spec sheet the best bet would be to run the Luxeons as cool as possible... I think that mounting the luxeons to a small heatsink then forcing cooling air through the hood across the heat sink is going to be required to get the best overall performance from the light system.

 

One really neat thing is the light throws very little heat forward placing a piece of paper over the luxeons and running the unit for 15min only increased the temp of the paper by 5deg over ambient.... this means that the tank isn't going to get a huge dose of IR like my 250 MH throws.

 

-Bill

 

 

 

Originally posted by palaegic

Great thread Pirate. Keep it coming. How is heat with the 4 LED's at full? Are you using a temp gun? I guess that little plastic canopy makes me a bit nervous.

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Basically I am waiting on a few more components to arrive. I began work on the heatsink / fan unit for the Luxeon III 3wt Leds that I will be trying... and I have sent the reflector back/plate off to be machined from Aluminum - this will act as a suitable heat sink for the Luxeon 1wt LED's. More to come on the 1wt LED's as soon as the Aluminium reflector comes back.

 

-Bill

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Each 1wt star is rated at 25lm at 350ma

Each 3wt star is rated at 65lm at 700ma (luxeon III)

Each 3wt star is rated at 80lm at 1000ma (luxeon III)

Each 5wt star is rated at 120lm at 700ma

 

Presently I am playing with a fixture using 12 1wt stars (300lm) and another using 8-12 3wt stars at 700ma (520-780). I am not certain the 2.5 mini bow has the optimum size/depth/surface-area for this kind of lighting but that is what I intend to find out.

 

The LED's are very directional and throw 90% of the light oupt forward into the tank unlike HID's and PC's which rely upon a reflector to redirect light down into the tank. Ultimately I wish to take some actual lux readings and compare with various reef aquariums in the area under more conventional light sources.

 

-Bill

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Just curious, what is your predicted/estimated cost of this project?

 

Bty, this is a really cool. I had to wipe drool of my chin when I saw that pic of the tank lit up... mmm...crispy...

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very sweet, what do you do for a living (you said something about a cnc and you seem to know what you are doign with electronics :) )???

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a 1wt star cost ~ 10.00/LED that's $120 for the array of 12 + $40 for a suitable driver. Or $160 just for the lighting components.

 

The 3wt star cost ~15/LED or $180 for the array of 12 and $80.00 for a suitable driver or $260 just for the lighting components. This option throws 2.6x the light and costs about 60% more.

 

I am not ready to fund a 5wt star project at the momenent :) ($45 per LED).

 

 

Originally posted by Von digity

Just curious, what is your predicted/estimated cost of this project?

 

Bty, this is a really cool.  I had to wipe drool of my chin when I saw that pic of the tank lit up... mmm...crispy...

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Thanks Spencerx, by day I am a GIS Analyst by night I run a model airplane mfg. business out of the basement. www.stevensaero.com I run a pair of CO2 lasers for use in the model business.

 

-Bill

 

Originally posted by Spencerx

very sweet, what do you do for a living (you said something about a cnc and you seem to know what you are doign with electronics :) )???

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that laser cutter looks like a nifty tool hehehe wish I had one..

 

Would you mind telling me where you got it? (I prolly couldn't afford one, but I still wanna look hahaha)

 

thats quiet a bit for led lighting, but I suppose when your going to get lighting of this amount its well worth it!

 

I think you should try it on a bigger tank!

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Ebay! Where else?

 

more info at www.ulsinc.com

 

-Bill

 

Originally posted by Pickles

that laser cutter looks like a nifty tool hehehe wish I had one..

 

Would you mind telling me where you got it? (I prolly couldn't afford one, but I still wanna look hahaha)

 

thats quiet a bit for led lighting, but I suppose when your going to get lighting of this amount its well worth it!

 

I think you should try it on a bigger tank!

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*Whistles*

 

I want it, I want it, I want it, I want it!!!!!

 

hahaha

 

damn it why can't I have it

 

*Checks wallet and looks at tank* OOOOOH thats right!!!

 

still, a cool product that I want!

 

How does it go with etching in metals and woods?

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Just enough to be dangerous.... :)

 

Originally posted by cliffrouse11baseball

Very neat.  You know alot is all I have to say.  Well done.

 

Tank 2.5g Mini Bow

 

Dimensions Interior 9.75" L x 5" (average) Wide x 8.5" tall.

 

Surface area = 0.34sq. '

 

I have wired up my first array to test. Initially I wanted 12 1wt luxeon stars over the tank - I decided I needed a suitable heatsink to maintain the high lumen output of the LED's. I have an aluminum insert being CNC'ed but it may be a while at this point. Off to the surplus electronics supply house. I found a nice heatsink capable of mounting 8 Luxeon stars and have mounted the heatsink to the acrylic reflector along with a small 12v DC cooling fan. My 3wt White luxeons are on back order so the first array I built was composed of the following:

 

Test Array #1

8 x 1wt White Luxeon Stars

2 x 3wt Royal Blue Luxeon Stars

 

The ratio of White to Blue light is just under 1:1 thanks to the extreme output of the 3wt Blues... there is just no way to describe the retinal damage they are capable of - don't stare into the light!!

 

Estimated Total Lumens 330

Estimated Lumens / Sq' = 970

Total Watts 14

Watts / Gallon 5.6

 

The LED array is presently controlled by 3 separate driver circuts (power pucks from LED supply) that were going to be mounted within the canopy. After 15 min of driving the LED's OUTSIDE OF THE HOOD the Junction temp of the LED's stabilized at only 90 deg f. while the pucks reached 115 deg f. The array throws a tremendous amount of forward light - yet little - no heat is detectible when placing your hand on the LED or in the path of the light. I couldn't fit the 3 water resistant epoxy coated pucks into the limited space of the hood so I may end up using George Scolaro's uFlex driver boards http://www.geocities.com/george_tlc/led.html... Alternatively the entire array may be driven from a single 700mah Xitanium balast from Advance (this seems to be the most practical method of rigging the array).

 

Here is a photo of the components the array was built from:

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George's driver board for comparison. Configurable as a 1wt or 5wt driver to drive 1-4 1wt luxeons, 2 3wt luxeons, or 1 5wt luxeon. Offers dimming / on-off switch - very cool driver board!

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