AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) I suggest you lay this coral down on it's side. Will expose more corallites to the light, grow more branches and get to the tabling aspect sooner. Well Thank you. This is my first tabling frag so I wouldn't have known that. Seems logical.. good advice. Edited March 10, 2010 by AJ_Tsin Quote Link to comment
spanko Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Tis true of all Acropora me thinks. Anthony Calfo talks about it here (second post) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...threadid=708423 Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 Tis true of all Acropora me thinks. Anthony Calfo talks about it here (second post) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...threadid=708423 Good read. Thanks for that. If anyone else has opinions or advice on anything, feel free to chime in. Quote Link to comment
louphoenix Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Tis true of all Acropora me thinks. Anthony Calfo talks about it here (second post) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...threadid=708423 +1 Excellent advice. I always try to set up new frags at least at an angle for maximum light exposure. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 +1 Excellent advice. I always try to set up new frags at least at an angle for maximum light exposure. I can concur all the frags I have that are on an angle have several arms spiking out and the vertical ones have like only a couple shoots out the top. Thanks again for the link. Quote Link to comment
spanko Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I really liked this part. "But do you know what's better than a nice little fast growing axial corallite? Several of them: Lay the frag down horizontally. Laying down horizontally... that 2" frag now has tens of secondary corallites now exposed to better water flow and light (especially) for being out from under the "shadow" of the vertical orientation. On this horizontal branch you will get at least several new branches that will each grow at the same or better pace than the single axial branch of a vertically fixed branch. But do you know what's better than several new branches growing from a horizontal 2" frag? Two times the number of branches! And we get this by simply splitting the branch in half bilaterally (like a bananna split). Thus... we get 4-6 new branches off of both pieces laying down horizontally with their cut sides face down... instead of just several from the whole uncut branch laying down horizontally. But do you know what's better than 4-6 new branches off of a bilaterally split coral frag? 20+ branches! And we get this by instead sawing the 2"/5 cm frag into say five 10mm disks/wafers! (done with a thin wet tile saw blade or lapidary saw blade as some of you have seen Eric Borneman or myself do in frag workshops... see 2005 IMAC and/or MACNA DVDs). Each wafer of stony coral can be placed on a new hard substrate with a dab of glue and the topside cut edge will be stimulated to cover with new tissue and form at least several (if not more) branches in the process." Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 But do you know what's better than 4-6 new branches off of a bilaterally split coral frag? 20+ branches! And we get this by instead sawing the 2"/5 cm frag into say five 10mm disks/wafers! (done with a thin wet tile saw blade or lapidary saw blade as some of you have seen Eric Borneman or myself do in frag workshops... see 2005 IMAC and/or MACNA DVDs). Each wafer of stony coral can be placed on a new hard substrate with a dab of glue and the topside cut edge will be stimulated to cover with new tissue and form at least several (if not more) branches in the process." I cant visually picture what the frags would look like as wafers. However I will try the "Banana Split" kind of method. Quote Link to comment
spanko Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Or with yours if you don't want to cut on it yet, just lay it over the way it is, let it grow out some and try the splitting down the road. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 Or with yours if you don't want to cut on it yet, just lay it over the way it is, let it grow out some and try the splitting down the road. I will definitely lay it. Especially considering the tabling factor. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) Here's an iPhone shot top down. You can see the everything colour up As the ULN environment begins to take effect. Edited March 10, 2010 by AJ_Tsin Quote Link to comment
timdanger Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I cant visually picture what the frags would look like as wafers. However I will try the "Banana Split" kind of method. i cannot at all picture how wafer acros would work. i trust anthony calfo implicitly, but can anyone provide a picture of how this works? i read through that entire R-C thread (interesting stuff), but despite several requests, there were no pictures of "acro wafers." Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 i cannot at all picture how wafer acros would work. i trust anthony calfo implicitly, but can anyone provide a picture of how this works? i read through that entire R-C thread (interesting stuff), but despite several requests, there were no pictures of "acro wafers." Nor can I. Quote Link to comment
DivineStyler Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 This is a pretty random question... do you have a cat? I've been gathering quotes for my own shallow rimless (20 x 20 x 12 or 24 x 24 x 12), but I'm really afraid my cat is going to jump in it. She's constantly fixated my JBJ 12 already. Pretty sure she's hopped up on it before! Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 This is a pretty random question... do you have a cat? I've been gathering quotes for my own shallow rimless (20 x 20 x 12 or 24 x 24 x 12), but I'm really afraid my cat is going to jump in it. She's constantly fixated my JBJ 12 already. Pretty sure she's hopped up on it before! I do actually. Never had a problem. However this is a bad example cause she has never had any interest in fish. Quote Link to comment
DivineStyler Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I do actually. Never had a problem. However this is a bad example cause she has never had any interest in fish. Thanks! Beautiful tank by the way! I'm using a combination of your tank and a RC member "asl4me76" tank as the design inspiration for my own. My footprint will just be a bit smaller and I'll be running the ecoxotic LED fixture. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 Nice Tank! Thanks Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 Thanks! Beautiful tank by the way! I'm using a combination of your tank and a RC member "asl4me76" tank as the design inspiration for my own. My footprint will just be a bit smaller and I'll be running the ecoxotic LED fixture. I'll have to check out his tank. I am jealous of your LED fixture. I definitely want to buy one of these in the near future. No idea where to buy this stuff in Canada though. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 Anyone else have any thoughts/criticisms/or questions? Quote Link to comment
timdanger Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 you mean other than the apparently unanswerable wafer acro issue?! Quote Link to comment
spanko Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 i cannot at all picture how wafer acros would work. i trust anthony calfo implicitly, but can anyone provide a picture of how this works? i read through that entire R-C thread (interesting stuff), but despite several requests, there were no pictures of "acro wafers." I have looked around but cannot find any pictures of acro wafers in action. However reading what Anthony is saying; "Each wafer of stony coral can be placed on a new hard substrate with a dab of glue and the topside cut edge will be stimulated to cover with new tissue and form at least several (if not more) branches in the process." wafer.bmp I am guessing he means the white area in the picture is where the new flesh (yellow) would gow over and because there would be many corallites there the natural branching would occur. Plus the number of wafers you would get from a branch multiplied by the exposed (eventually) corallites would give you many more branches to frag off. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 I have looked around but cannot find any pictures of acro wafers in action. However reading what Anthony is saying; "Each wafer of stony coral can be placed on a new hard substrate with a dab of glue and the topside cut edge will be stimulated to cover with new tissue and form at least several (if not more) branches in the process." wafer.bmp I am guessing he means the white area in the picture is where the new flesh (yellow) would gow over and because there would be many corallites there the natural branching would occur. Plus the number of wafers you would get from a branch multiplied by the exposed (eventually) corallites would give you many more branches to frag off. I kind of figured it would look like that. Thanks for the info although that method helps for propagation of several frags I think laying it down may work better to grow a single frag into a colony. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment
spanko Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 ......Thanks for the info although that method helps for propagation of several frags I think laying it down may work better to grow a single frag into a colony...... Agreed. Quote Link to comment
AJ_Tsin Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 I plan on buying an LED light and an Aqua-controller soon. Any opinions on which to get? I have no idea which LED fixture to get, but it has to be comparable to a 250watt halide and I would like to have blues and whites operate separately. For a controller I am looking at a Digtal Aquatics Reefkeeper. No idea wether I should go lite or Elite. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment
timdanger Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 (edited) I have looked around but cannot find any pictures of acro wafers in action. However reading what Anthony is saying; "Each wafer of stony coral can be placed on a new hard substrate with a dab of glue and the topside cut edge will be stimulated to cover with new tissue and form at least several (if not more) branches in the process." wafer.bmp I am guessing he means the white area in the picture is where the new flesh (yellow) would gow over and because there would be many corallites there the natural branching would occur. Plus the number of wafers you would get from a branch multiplied by the exposed (eventually) corallites would give you many more branches to frag off. ya, i mean -- it makes sense. i guess i'd just like to see it before i start hacking away at my 6" branchless stick of green slimer. edit: changed out picture for a shot of just the slimer Edited March 11, 2010 by timdanger Quote Link to comment
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