wildernesstank Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 is there anyway i could have a claim with 54 watts in a stock aquapod 12 g ?? Link to comment
ProFlatlander15 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 claim? maybe... clam? no. upgrade to atleast 70W MH Link to comment
elchicodelgado Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I've not tried it but I've heard that you can do a squamosa or derassa under pc lighting. I would definitely consult someone who has had one under pc lighting for a while before taking the plunge. A maxima or crocea is definitely a no go however. Link to comment
zachxlutz Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Don't do it. Just not a high enough success ratio with PC lights even with squamosa and deresa CLAMS. I've seen a deresa go down hill in a very healthy 20long with PC lighting, almost to the point of death. After placing it under metal halide it came back and began to regenerate it's mantle. I wouldn't recommend it... and this is coming from experience. Link to comment
idog Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 You would need tons of flourescent lighting to do this. A stock AP just doesn't cut it. It would be slow drawn out death for the clam. Link to comment
elchicodelgado Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Don't do it. Just not a high enough success ratio with PC lights even with squamosa and deresa CLAMS. I've seen a deresa go down hill in a very healthy 20long with PC lighting, almost to the point of death. After placing it under metal halide it came back and began to regenerate it's mantle. I wouldn't recommend it... and this is coming from experience. I'd listen to him; a derassa is supposed to be one of the hardiest and if that was unsuccesful then I would probably give it up. Trust me, I've thought about it too though..... Link to comment
coral_addict Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 is there anyway i could have a claim with 54 watts in a stock aquapod 12 g ?? How much do you want to CLAIM? Link to comment
wildernesstank Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 ok ha ha ha guys i did read it befor i posted it .... claim clam there all the same hahahaha Link to comment
crazinezz978 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 clam = MH fo' sure well, thats only how i see it Link to comment
Reefstalker Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I bought a 3" derasa over a year ago and kept it in a 10g with 100w PC lighting. It's now over 6" long and doing just fine. I also have two croceas in a 40g with 200w T5 lighting over 6 months now. They're both very healthy with great coloration, and growing rapidly. Lighting is just one part of the equation. Also equally important is nutrients and water quality. Link to comment
Phixion Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 clam = MH fo' sure well, thats only how i see it Definitely NOT true. But they won't survive under the stock 54w PC light of a cube either. I have a nice 3.5 year old croeca clam under the stock 4x24w T5HO lighting of my Finnex tank. Link to comment
zachxlutz Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Definitely NOT true. But they won't survive under the stock 54w PC light of a cube either. I have a nice 3.5 year old croeca clam under the stock 4x24w T5HO lighting of my Finnex tank. Does that fixture have individual reflectors? Link to comment
kinetic Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 ok ha ha ha guys i did read it befor i posted it .... claim clam there all the same hahahaha I went to a vietnamese restaurant down in SoCal once, and they spelled Clam, 'CLAIM' everywhere on their menu. It was amazing. It doesn't even sound like Claim? Link to comment
travisurfer Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Does that fixture have individual reflectors? no it doesn't Link to comment
Phixion Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Does that fixture have individual reflectors? Nope! Not stock at least, and my clam did fine the 2 months I had it under them. About a month ago I added reflectors to the 2 daylights since I plan to have SPS as well. Link to comment
zachxlutz Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Nope! Not stock at least, and my clam did fine the 2 months I had it under them. About a month ago I added reflectors to the 2 daylights since I plan to have SPS as well. Don't count this as a success story. When clams don't have sufficient lighting, it is a long drawn out death and can take many months, if not longer, for them to completely parish. Unless a T5 fixture has individual reflectors, it won't provide sufficient lighting to the clam, be it a deresa, squamosa or any other type. Link to comment
wildernesstank Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 I went to a vietnamese restaurant down in SoCal once, and they spelled Clam, 'CLAIM' everywhere on their menu. It was amazing. It doesn't even sound like Claim? WOW that really weird . are feather dusters ok to have in a tank becouse the fish store has them for $10 and there HUGE Link to comment
Phixion Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Don't count this as a success story. When clams don't have sufficient lighting, it is a long drawn out death and can take many months, if not longer, for them to completely parish. Unless a T5 fixture has individual reflectors, it won't provide sufficient lighting to the clam, be it a deresa, squamosa or any other type. Ehh, the clam is very healthy. It's been in the tank now for around 3 months. No signs of deterioration to speak of. it opens up fully everyday and the mantle is in top notch shape. Link to comment
snommisbor Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 My LFS has a stock 24G Nano cube with a clam in it. They just have it sitting on top of the live rock maybe an inch from the water line. The tank setup is awesome with some incredible corals. So I would say you can do it it if you put it up high. Of course they look so much better on the sand and for that you need MH. Link to comment
Withers Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 My LFS has a stock 24G Nano cube with a clam in it. They just have it sitting on top of the live rock maybe an inch from the water line. The tank setup is awesome with some incredible corals. So I would say you can do it it if you put it up high. Of course they look so much better on the sand and for that you need MH. How long has the clam been in there? Link to comment
One Eyed Bunny Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I have to be skeptical like VicSkimmr. Although it may not look like its dying, under PC bulbs I'd imagine it's slowly withering. Link to comment
alexmurovec Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 think a clam could thrive in a 20H with 70W MH? Link to comment
MDeth Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I dont think anybody answered you about dusters...YES you can have them They are not photosynthetic, they are filter feeders. Link to comment
wildernesstank Posted April 19, 2007 Author Share Posted April 19, 2007 oh wow i didnt know this crazy thread was still going . ya same here my LFS has a claim (clam) in there stock NC 12 at the bottom of the sand bed. i asked him how long its bene there and he said almost a year and i even checked out the tank and he was right it was stock so how can you explain that Link to comment
DudE31 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 lies ... almost all will tell you a load of bs to get you interested to buy it .. and when you do and it dies there s nothing you can do Link to comment
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