Jbrock183 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I've heard Purigen is much better than Chemipure but I've also heard that it tends to bleach the color out of colors. I'm also not sure if it has a good GFO. I've heard Chemipure Elite is nearly as good as Purigen and definitely has a good GFO. I've heard Chemipure Blue is also very good but it has the advantage of not removing as much of the important elements from the water that corals need - compared two the Purigen and Chemipure elite. I'm also not sure if the Chemipure Blue has GFO. I have a 10 gallon nano that is doing beautifully. I"ve been using the Chemipure Blue with 'satisfactory results' but I'm not convinced that there might be a better option for my needs. I would love to hear from you about what you know and what you've found based on your own experience in comparison of these products. Also, if there is a better product that I'm not aware of, please let me know. I look forward to learning more from you. 1 Quote Link to comment
Angel<3Nanos Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I've heard that the only difference between chemipure elite and blue is that blue has purigen. Not sure if that's true, but if it is guess you don't need to buy purigen. Quote Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 That would make me very happy. Does anyone know if that's true? Quote Link to comment
masterbuilder Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Chemipure in all its forms is handy and is somewhat effective. I used it for a couple of years...until....I found that ROX Carbon and GFO are much more effective and as a bonus, more cost effective. BTW....The ion exchange stuff is twisted science. 1 Quote Link to comment
NYfishies Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Hello, I am a bit confused. I thought using both Chemi Pure Elite and Purigen was the way to go? I was about to buy Chemi Pure Elite and then I researched some more and stumbled on this thread. Currently I am using Purigen in the 100 ml bag, the stock mechanical sponge that came with my IM Nuvo and the stock phosphate sponge that came with my IM Nuvo. This is all in the Custom Caddy Medea Basket. I also use a filter pad. I was planning on switching the mechanical sponge to filter floss and the phosphate sponge to Chemi Pure Elite while keeping the Purigen bag and the filter pad. Would this not be a good combo? I do not have a media reactor. In the other chamber of the Nuvo 40 I have a small refugium going with only the mechanical sponge for filtration. I also have a protein skimmer. Also, I have been reading about Phosguard and PhosBan. Does anybody use either? Would this replace Chemi Pure Elite and could be used together with Purigen instead? Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment
bob115 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I may be wrong on what exactly plain chemipure is, but from my understanding its more or less just granular activated carbon. Chemipure elite is GAC and GFO, and I'm not really sure what chemipure blue is. That said, purigen is a plastic resin that binds nitrogenous compounds. You can't really compare which is better in a broad sense because purigen and the chemipure line are different things meant to accomplish different goals. I'd recommend doing as others have said: get bulk GAC and GFO and mix it yourself. Then you can run purigen in conjunction with that, and since you can refresh the purigen you don't have to throw it away once its exhausted (if chemipure blue does in fact have purigen, or a purigen like compound). Quote Link to comment
StevieT Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's Magic Just don't over do the magic. Never use Chemi Pure Elite and Chemi Pure Blue together Quote Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 So I tried the Chemipure Blue and wasn't overly impressed. Some of you have mentioned that mixing Rox Carbon and GFO are better and cheaper. I'm not familiar with how I would go about doing that. Would I just buy a nylon bag to hold the mixture and tie it off? Is Rox a specific brand of carbon? What is GAC? Is GAC Rox Carbon? Also, I've searched for GFO, but haven't been able to find a product by that name. Could someone give me specific product names (and reputable brand names) so I can get a better idea of what I'm looking for? It would be a huge help and much appreciated. Also, when using the Rox Carbon and GFO, is it safe to use it in conjunction with Purigen? And does Purigen bleach out coral? One last question about Purigen -- Is it similar in shape, size, and purpose of the Biomax filter media for the Aquaclear power filter? Quote Link to comment
reefernanoman Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I'm currently using chemipure blue with purigen since the beginning of January 2015, and I don't know if it's going to be beneficial. Quote Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 u shouldn't need purigen with chemipure blue. it has the equivalent of purigen in it already. Quote Link to comment
StevieT Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Boyd told me not to run cp blue and purigen together. Quote Link to comment
basser1 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Boyd told me not to run cp blue and purigen together. HUH...... Silly me, I've been using both together and there doesn't seem to be any problems...... Quote Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Does anybody know about using Rox Carbon and GFO? Some of you have mentioned that it is better and cheaper. I'm not familiar with how I would go about doing that. Would I just buy a nylon bag to hold the mixture and tie it off? Is Rox a specific brand of carbon? What is GAC? Is GAC Rox Carbon? Also, I've searched for GFO, but haven't been able to find a product by that name. Could someone give me specific product names (and reputable brand names) so I can get a better idea of what I'm looking for? It would be a huge help and much appreciated. Also, when using the Rox Carbon and GFO, is it safe to use it in conjunction with Purigen? And does Purigen bleach out coral? One last question about Purigen -- Is it similar in shape, size, and purpose of the Biomax filter media for the Aquaclear power filter? Quote Link to comment
StevieT Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Basically the tank can explode. Fancy talk you guys would understand but with blue don't also run purigen. Fine with elite and purigen. If it didn't explode then whatever. Dont fix what's not broke. 2 Quote Link to comment
reefernanoman Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Basically the tank can explode. Fancy talk you guys would understand but with blue don't also run purigen. Fine with elite and purigen. If it didn't explode then whatever. Dont fix what's not broke. So do you think I'm wasting my money running CPB and Purigen? Did they say what was the downside? Quote Link to comment
StevieT Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I can't say for sure. It was at a trade show so a lot gets lost and all sciency chemistry which goes over most my head. Blue basically has purigen in it. So it's kind of over kill. If you want the true low down send a note to Boyd and they can explain. 2 Quote Link to comment
tk3445 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 i have ran filter floss and chemi pure elite for about 4 or 5 years now with great success. Is purigen really worth adding also? I have never have used it before. Quote Link to comment
StevieT Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yes. Great absorber. Quote Link to comment
reefernanoman Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 i have ran filter floss and chemi pure elite for about 4 or 5 years now with great success. Is purigen really worth adding also? I have never have used it before. Me too, but I have been using Chemipure in conjunction with purigen, since most people here said that it worked better like that. I have been doing this for about 2 years and can't honestly say that I have seen better results. Go figure. But now it has been mentioned that to just use CMPB and not use Purigen anymore, so there you go. Quote Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anyone have experience using Rox Carbon and GFO? I've heard it is a more effective combination than Chemipure Blue and much cheaper over time. I'm not familiar at all with Rox Carbon and GFO. Would I just buy a nylon bag to hold the mixture and tie it off? Is Rox a specific brand of carbon? What is GAC? Is GAC Rox Carbon? Also, I've searched for GFO, but haven't been able to find a product by that name. Suggestions with specific product names would be helpful. One last question about Purigen -- Is it similar in shape, size, and purpose of the Biomax filter media for the Aquaclear HOB power filter? 1 Quote Link to comment
Gamby Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anyone have experience using Rox Carbon and GFO? I've heard it is a more effective combination than Chemipure Blue and much cheaper over time. I'm not familiar at all with Rox Carbon and GFO. Would I just buy a nylon bag to hold the mixture and tie it off? Is Rox a specific brand of carbon? What is GAC? Is GAC Rox Carbon? Also, I've searched for GFO, but haven't been able to find a product by that name. Suggestions with specific product names would be helpful. One last question about Purigen -- Is it similar in shape, size, and purpose of the Biomax filter media for the Aquaclear HOB power filter? Although I am not 100% sure, I believe what is being referred to is ROX carbon by AquaMaxx and the GFO is granular ferric oxide which is designed to remove phosphate. The GFO is manufactured by a number of different companies. Check out www.Marinedepot.com. You can do a simple search for both items. My tank is not far enough along for these as I am just ordering my rock today. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong on my interpretation of the products mentioned. Quote Link to comment
Hexadron Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Steve, since you da man, can you give some feedback to Boyd that the 5.5oz is still HUGE for a lot of nano setups. I need to use two compartments in your in tank media basket just to run the media. I want a 3.1oz Mini bag like the Elite! Quote Link to comment
Marc.The.Shark Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 This place seems to have ChemiPureBlue Nano, but shipping kills it for me. https://www.jellyfishart.com/shop/CPBnano Steve, when u gettin this??? Quote Link to comment
StevieT Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Steve, since you da man, can you give some feedback to Boyd that the 5.5oz is still HUGE for a lot of nano setups. I need to use two compartments in your in tank media basket just to run the media. I want a 3.1oz Mini bag like the Elite! They are coming out with a smaller blue version, possibly ready next month. I have a sample of it from MACNA in August, it's a perfect size and smaller than the 3.1oz. Comes packaged like a laundry detergent puck size and shape. This place seems to have ChemiPureBlue Nano, but shipping kills it for me. https://www.jellyfishart.com/shop/CPBnano Steve, when u gettin this??? Ha, jelly fish art is owned by the son of the owners of Boyd. Guessing he got first dibs. I just asked Boyd again a min ago, I figured next month after an email blast they just had about it featured at a trade show. 3 Quote Link to comment
Allathlete5 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 On a side note... Can it be harmful to use too much purigen or chemipure elite/blue in a nano tank? Quote Link to comment
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