markalot Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Someone really needs to put the LED's on top, or hell, even on the sides. Link to comment
Sunar357 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I just wonder on the PAR readings and such still. C'mon, peoples! Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Someone really needs to put the LED's on top, or hell, even on the sides. Due to their directionality, almost all of the light from the LEDs is in a small cone directly under them and would simple be reflected right back onto the LEDs and their PCB/heatsink. Only a small amount of incident light would make it beyond that. Link to comment
Pinner Reef Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I just wonder on the PAR readings and such still. C'mon, peoples! Here, here Link to comment
Sherman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 If no measurable improvement I better keep my T5HO tube and not waste money on some white elephant Link to comment
evilc66 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Pic no workie? I'm sure it was something along the lines of "hurry the #### up :)". I know, I suck. Link to comment
braaap Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Pic no workie? I'm sure it was something along the lines of "hurry the #### up :)". I know, I suck. But seriously. Hurry the hell up already. Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Sounds like a good investment for someone looking to build a retrofit. I'm adding two bulbs to go along with my 4 bulb retro. I haven't ordered reflectors yet just the clips to hold a pair of bulbs. Seems the reflector would be a waste of money. I'm also hanging around waiting on par results. I need power rather than pop with only 4 true t5 bulbs over my 75g build if they don't stack up they don't make the cut. Link to comment
Horerczy Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Pic no workie? I'm sure it was something along the lines of "hurry the #### up :)". I know, I suck.Johny Five: "Need more input Stephanie" actually. Link to comment
Sherman Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Sounds like a good investment for someone looking to build a retrofit. I'm adding two bulbs to go along with my 4 bulb retro. I haven't ordered reflectors yet just the clips to hold a pair of bulbs. Seems the reflector would be a waste of money. I'm also hanging around waiting on par results. I need power rather than pop with only 4 true t5 bulbs over my 75g build if they don't stack up they don't make the cut. Same same Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Same sameI'll be running ati bulbs with decent reflectors for four bulbs and have a total of six bulbs on hand. The other two can sit it out till its time to replace a couple. I didn't want to drop another 75 just on a pair of dam reflectors. These sound like the ticket since I'll be running those two bulbs on a rapid start ballest anyways. Link to comment
Sherman Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Hi gulsurger101, Have you add 2 E5 along with your T5HO yet? If have you see any different? Link to comment
masterbuilder Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well....while we are waiting on Evil.... I found this over on another forum. The guy that took the readings is usually trustworthy. e5 Blue Pop: "Par for a single bulb at the surface was 92, 12" was 40 and at 24" was 20. The ATI B+ was 180, 90, 45 respectively. Take it for what its worth. Link to comment
Arce Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well....while we are waiting on Evil.... I found this over on another forum. The guy that took the readings is usually trustworthy. e5 Blue Pop: "Par for a single bulb at the surface was 92, 12" was 40 and at 24" was 20. The ATI B+ was 180, 90, 45 respectively. Take it for what its worth. If that's true that's depressing, was hoping for something equivalent. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Seeing as I have Good Friday off work, I'm hoping to get some time to take some measurements (kids will be away, yay!). Masterbuilder, what fixture was that taken in? I'm assuming it's probably a higher end fixture, which I honestly think this product is not intended for. I think my use of the Fish Need It fixture will actually offer some more practical results for those looking to use this product. Link to comment
Horerczy Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I wonder what quantum meter was used and if the correction equations were used. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I wonder what quantum meter was used and if the correction equations were used. Even if not, adding 20% still doesn't bring it up to where it would need to to be competitive. Link to comment
markalot Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Even if not, adding 20% still doesn't bring it up to where it would need to to be competitive. Maybe, but looking at the medium (no cooling, mediocre reflector) quality Aquatic Life fixture I have one of these bulbs might come close to equaling the PAR of a single bulb. I woudl only use one fo these in my big ATI fixture if I was looking to reduce PAR and add some POP ... but then I have BML fixtures to do that. Link to comment
masterbuilder Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 The actual PAR numbers dont matter much to me. What was interesting was that in the same fixture the e5 output was roughly the half of an ATI B+. Which is about what I expected. Masterbuilder, what fixture was that taken in? I'm assuming it's probably a higher end fixture, which I honestly think this product is not intended for. I think my use of the Fish Need It fixture will actually offer some more practical results for those looking to use this product. If not mistaken it was in a TEK. Seeing the design of the e5 I dont expect to see more than a modest improvement in output regardless of what fixture its in. I have been wrong many times before though (see my p.s. for example) Standing by for your numbers. Mark p.s. After 6 months, I am throwing in the towel on my LEDs due to the shadowing. My corals are still relatively small and I already see the effects and it will only get worse. I love my LEDs but its problematic in my tank/corals. I know there are solutions but I am comfortable with my decision and the costs. Ordered an ATI 6x24 last night. I also added two e5 blue's in addition to the standard T5 combo to play with. Link to comment
markalot Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 The actual PAR numbers dont matter much to me. What was interesting was that in the same fixture the e5 output was roughly the half of an ATI B+. Which is about what I expected. If not mistaken it was in a TEK. Seeing the design of the e5 I dont expect to see more than a modest improvement in output regardless of what fixture its in. I have been wrong many times before though (see my p.s. for example) Standing by for your numbers. Mark p.s. After 6 months, I am throwing in the towel on my LEDs due to the shadowing. My corals are still relatively small and I already see the effects and it will only get worse. I love my LEDs but its problematic in my tank/corals. I know there are solutions but I am comfortable with my decision and the costs. Ordered an ATI 6x24 last night. I also added two e5 blue's in addition to the standard T5 combo to play with. Those montis will look good under T5s! Link to comment
Hexadron Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 But seriously, can't wait for the teardown/review. Link to comment
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