HOLY geez 10K Clownfish :o

[1reefluvr2]

Uh, no you won't. First mention of the word 'lightning' in ANY of the Reef Hobbyist Magazine is Q4 2010, page 26: http://www.reefhobbyistmagazine.com/downloads/pdf/version16.pdf'>http://www.reefhobbyistmagazine.com/downloads/pdf/version16.pdf

 

which shows the PNG lightning maroon clown that Matt Pederson was to attempt to breed, who is the breeder that these lightning clowns came from.

 

 

Where the original PNG lightning maroon came from: http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/resources.asp?show=416'>http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/resources.asp?show=416

 

Matt Pederson's blog about it: http://www.lightning-maroon-clownfish.com/'>http://www.lightning-maroon-clownfish.com/

it couldn't been in 2010 couse my wife and I were at the show and she past away in 08 and I had the mag way before she past away. The full article was a later year the picture and the brief discription was from the show along with the bidding on that fish , witch was a quick pic of the action I'm in the pic Julian and Tony were seating on the side of me . Ill look for the mag now I have to prove a point.

[mwp]

it couldn't been in 2010 couse my wife and I were at the show and she past away in 08 and I had the mag way before she past away. The full article was a later year the picture and the brief discription was from the show along with the bidding on that fish , witch was a quick pic of the action I'm in the pic Julian and Tony were seating on the side of me . Ill look for the mag now I have to prove a point.

 

Hmmm...I've been skimming...are you sure it was Reef Hobbyist Magazine? I did find this mention of Reefapalooza Vol 4, Issue 1 (2010) - http://reefhobbyistmagazine.com/downloads/pdf/version13.pdf

 

Obviously I'd like to very much know more about this Leopard Lightning Maroon you claim to have encountered. My guess - it may have been a Picasso Perc that had some black spots in the white area caused by heavy overbarring (when the stripes become more intricate and fuse together, you get black patches etc). Case in point, the "Booyah Buckshot" - http://booyahsreef.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53&products_id=44

 

There's also been Mike Hoang's Goldflakes, which were really promising but definitely didn't turn into Lightnings like some (even myself) thought that maybe they could (This was before I had any babies) -http://reefbuilders.com/2011/09/20/thunder-maroon-clownfish/

[1reefluvr2]

Hmmm...I've been skimming...are you sure it was Reef Hobbyist Magazine? I did find this mention of Reefapalooza Vol 4, Issue 1 (2010) - http://reefhobbyistmagazine.com/downloads/pdf/version13.pdf'>http://reefhobbyistmagazine.com/downloads/pdf/version13.pdf

Obviously I'd like to very much know more about this Leopard Lightning Maroon you claim to have encountered. My guess - it may have been a Picasso Perc that had some black spots in the white area caused by heavy overbarring (when the stripes become more intricate and fuse together, you get black patches etc). Case in point, the "Booyah Buckshot" - http://booyahsreef.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53&products_id=44'>http://booyahsreef.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53&products_id=44There's also been Mike Hoang's Goldflakes, which were really promising but definitely didn't turn into Lightnings like some (even myself) thought that maybe they could (This was before I had any babies) -http://reefbuilders.com/2011/09/20/thunder-maroon-clownfish/'>http://reefbuilders.com/2011/09/20/thunder-maroon-clownfish/

he Maroon clown my wife and I saw at the show was a gorgeous little fish I'm sure it was before the 10 issues I'm 200% sure since my wife was alive in the last part of 08 and she an a few of our friends made the trip with us to the show. My wife past in oct.7 2008 and I had the magizine before she past witch was given to us at a show in San Francisco . I think it was the issue before the crab on the front cover. Ill have to go thru my file cabinet for the old mags I have.

[Graver]

What? Where? Which fish, O please do tell!

Bladefish Basslet sold for $ 9999.00

Golden Basslet sold for $ 8999.00

crazy huh?

 

http://www.aquatouch.com/Marine%20Fish.html

[patback]

Didn't read the whole thread and I'm not a big fish guy... But didn't someone JUST successfully breed lightning maroons/occy hybrids and only charge like a buck50 each? The shit people pay money for just because someone says its worth it is ridiculous.

[th64]

I am the highest bidder that sucker is mine.....I WISH lol. Hey some people think its worth the money so why not if they can afford it

[1.0reef]

Didn't read the whole thread and I'm not a big fish guy... But didn't someone JUST successfully breed lightning maroons/occy hybrids and only charge like a buck50 each? The shit people pay money for just because someone says its worth it is ridiculous.

One of our members bred a Female Occy with a male maroon, no fancy designers though, but it was still a frst

[surgicalsense]

Here's the clowns HUD housing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Inferno-Bubble-Tip-Anemone-WYSIWYG-Live-Coral-ALMOST-SOLD-OUT-/251293140536

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coral-Collection-Flame-Bubble-Tip-Anemone-ALMOST-SOLD-OUT-/251289318155?pt=Coral_and_Live_Rock&hash=item3a8202b30b

 

HUD housing

[andre]

Never liked maroon clowns, but regardless I would never pay that much for any fish or coral. Imagine being the winning bidder and losing it to ich 2 weeks later. Ouch.

[1.0reef]

Never liked maroon clowns, but regardless I would never pay that much for any fish or coral. Imagine being the winning bidder and losing it to ich 2 weeks later. Ouch.

No, they'll probably spend 1K on medications and a sweet QT tank lol

[mwp]

One of our members bred a Female Occy with a male maroon, no fancy designers though, but it was still a frst

 

Probably not a first, unless that "member" happens to actually be the breeder who did it years ago. The hybrid is appropriately called a Cocoa Clownfish, as that was the name first given to it. Here's a reference from 2004 - http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6/can-a-marron-and-a-false-perc-mate-myth-or-fact-38402.html ; I've seen references to "Maroonolaris" or similar, but Cocoa is given name and the one that should be used to avoid confusion.

[mwp]

he Maroon clown my wife and I saw at the show was a gorgeous little fish I'm sure it was before the 10 issues I'm 200% sure since my wife was alive in the last part of 08 and she an a few of our friends made the trip with us to the show. My wife past in oct.7 2008 and I had the magizine before she past witch was given to us at a show in San Francisco . I think it was the issue before the crab on the front cover. Ill have to go thru my file cabinet for the old mags I have.

 

I gotta say this side note, my condolences on your wife's passing. It makes sense to use it as a frame of reference for the time as it no doubt was a huge, I mean HUGE, life changer and loss. Still, I wish you didn't have to use that event as the marker / timeframe. Again, my sympathies.

 

The issue with the crab on the cover is the Jan/Feb/March (Q1) 2009 issue, so not possible to have had it before Oct 7th, 2008.

 

Again, not calling you out on this, but rather very curious in trying to suss out the root of this mystery. It is certainly within the realm of possibilities.

 

Digging through further, the original post that announced the FIRST Lightning Maroon was August 8th, 2008, by Cortez Marine. http://www.reefs.org/forums/topic123228.html

The Reef Builders post was a solid month+ later - http://reefbuilders.com/2008/09/21/wicked-maroon-clownfish-emerges-from-the-png/

 

Either way, this fish was definitely on the minds of aquarists in 2008, around the time of your wife's passing. It is my understanding through multiple 3rd party stories that this fish DID ship to the US and a wholesaler. It is conceivably possible that this fish could have been taken to an event and shown in person, and that you could have seen it. So yes, it is conceivably possible that if it had been put on display at an event, people might have been trying to buy it. My understanding though is that this fish never made it that far.

[metrokat]

At those prices, the fish should be hand delivered by Matt with a hand shake and a picture on ReefBuilders.

[1.0reef]

 

Probably not a first, unless that "member" happens to actually be the breeder who did it years ago. The hybrid is appropriately called a Cocoa Clownfish, as that was the name first given to it. Here's a reference from 2004 - http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6/can-a-marron-and-a-false-perc-mate-myth-or-fact-38402.html ; I've seen references to "Maroonolaris" or similar, but Cocoa is given name and the one that should be used to avoid confusion.

K, I thought that an occy female ruling over a male maroon was a first, either way it probably hasn't happened a lot of times lol

[Zia]

Currently 45 bids @ 6100.00 and ends in 2hr and 30min

 

Started w/ no reserve at .99 cents

Bid history

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=161051111760

[mwp]

K, I thought that an occy female ruling over a male maroon was a first, either way it probably hasn't happened a lot of times lol

 

Sex of the parents doesn't generally change the results of a hybridization, but yes, it's certainly more *likely* to have a Maroon female and an Ocellaris male.

[Zia]

WOA! Has to be a record for any single fish!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/F1-PNG-Lightning-Maroon-Clownfish-BZLM1-/161051119894?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item257f651116

[Tamberav]

WOA! Has to be a record for any single fish!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/F1-PNG-Lightning-Maroon-Clownfish-BZLM1-/161051119894?pt=Live_Fish&hash=item257f651116

 

I like the markings on that one!

[Formula462]

Must be 44 people who have run out of other things to spend money on.

 

yup. or 44 nerds with needle wiener that think THIS is gonna be the one the ladies can't deny.

[Rollermonkey]

I'm sorry, but I think it's ugly.

 

For that matter, I don't like 'designer' clowns in general.

[Formula462]

it IS ugly wtf. I did not even actually look until now.

[oldSWseamomma]

I don't like it either

[metrokat]

Our sources tell us that BOTH of the first two fish were sold to the same buyer who paid over $16,000 for the pair, and promptly flew them first class to the center of the world, New York City. The parent fish have yet to produce additional offspring, so with only 14 of these fish in captivity worldwide, future buyers will have to be aggressive with their bidding in order to pick up two fish to potentially make a pair of Lightning x Lightning. Pedersen has said many times before that he believes the genetics of this particular pairing may produce some incredible possibilities. The buyer plans to keep the fish in their 120 gallon tank as the centerpiece of their show tank. The buyer was not specifically interested in breeding them, but if they do decide to mate the eggs will be transferred to the Long Island Aquarium and raised by Todd Gardner and Joe Yaiullo. We’ll have photos of the fish in their new home soon!