llama roadkill Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hi! In my soon to be 75 Gallon Reef I would like to try some sort of clownfish, but I am not 100 percent sure what kind, or even if I really want one. My planned, but of course not final, is... 1 Kole Tang 1 Yellow Watchman Goby/Pistol Pair 1 Yellow Coris Wrasse Pair of Bangaii Cardinals A school of 3 or 5 fish, either Lyretail Anthias, Zebra Dartfish, or Lemon Chromis I don't really have the rest planned out, but eventually I will have a Mandarin in the DT after a few months, and an angler in the refugium. What does everyone think? Could a pair of clownfish live with these? If so, what type of clownfish? Thanks guys! Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Seems like a lot of fish IMO, but I've never done anything on that scale. I like my percs. Supposedly, ocellaris are a bit more social. Other clowns get pretty big. You'd probably be better off sticking with one of those species if you want a pair. I love the look of clarkii's, but they get pretty big. I wouldn't do a pair in anything less than a 120. What are your plans for corals? Will it be FOWLR? What are your filtration plans? Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Seems like a lot of fish IMO, but I've never done anything on that scale. I like my percs. Supposedly, ocellaris are a bit more social. Other clowns get pretty big. You'd probably be better off sticking with one of those species if you want a pair.I love the look of clarkii's, but they get pretty big. I wouldn't do a pair in anything less than a 120.What are your plans for corals? Will it be FOWLR? What are your filtration plans? I may not do the school... I was also thinking Clarkiis, but they do get big... It will be a mixed reef. I may eventually try my luck (or research!) with clams and SPS, probably a monti cap first... EDIT: Saw your last question, I will either have a 20L or 29 Gallon sump, with an appropriately rated skimmer (still deciding) a refugium of 15-25 gallons, maybe larger based on the tank size. The return will be in the last chamber. Maybe a Mag 5 or 7. I may do a bag of carbon, too. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'd go with maroons. Really? I thought Maroons were the most aggressive. Link to comment
RatWilly Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Really? I thought Maroons were the most aggressive. Yeah, but I like the way they look so if it was me that's what I'd get. Just add it/them last. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Oh. Okay. I was looking for a more peaceful resident. The last fish I add (Still readjusting stock) will either be a Royal Gramma, Flame Angel, or Kole Tang. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Skunk, Percula, and Occies. All the other species get over 5 inches and most get quite aggressive. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 I would like something that will pair and possibly breed. If I could capture any fry they will go in the QT if no fish are present. What clown is the easiest to pair and breed? Link to comment
1.0reef Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Your 13 right? Your not gonna breed clowns for a while for 2 reasons 1. It takes 2-3yrs for female clowns to mature fully, and they'll get aggressive 2. Your going to stay up till like 2 am collecting the fry and spend a lot of time and money for breeding equipment and caring for the babies. IMO try breeding to cardinals, they'll be much easier. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Okay. Seemed like a longshot anyway. I actually plan to do a pair of Bangaiis. My neighbors know very little about fish, yet have a large tank, with flourescent bulbs, and an anemone... Anyway, they had baby cardinals. If they could do it, I assume anyone could! Link to comment
Cirenus Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 False percs are likely the easiest to breed. buy a mated pair, they are fairly cheap. If you want a super beautiful clown I suggest the Black Ice clowns, they are amazing! You won't be able to find a mated pair for cheap though =) Also, Maroons are mean as hell =( especially if you get the an anemone, go anywhere near it and you will be nipped for sure haha Link to comment
notwithit Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 You can also get a "designer perc" so you can have a one of a kind... Get a snowflake and a onxy and you'll be happy. :-D Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 False percs are likely the easiest to breed. buy a mated pair, they are fairly cheap. If you want a super beautiful clown I suggest the Black Ice clowns, they are amazing! You won't be able to find a mated pair for cheap though =) Also, Maroons are mean as hell =( especially if you get the an anemone, go anywhere near it and you will be nipped for sure haha Ya, maroons seem pretty mean. I would want a BTA after a year or so, so I don't think that would work with maroons! You can also get a "designer perc" so you can have a one of a kind... Get a snowflake and a onxy and you'll be happy. :-DThe designer Percs and Ocellaris are pretty cool. I may not get a designer since they are so expensive, but I do like regular Black Ocellaris. EDIT: Also wanted to add that I don't really care if they breed, I just want to have a pair that cares for each other. I will have lots of symbiotic relationships like clownfish/anemone and goby/shrimp. Link to comment
1.0reef Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Some designers aren't to expensive. A few that come to mind are naked's, low grade snowflakes, mochas, and fancy occies. Ya, maroons seem pretty mean. I would want a BTA after a year or so, so I don't think that would work with maroons!The designer Percs and Ocellaris are pretty cool. I may not get a designer since they are so expensive, but I do like regular Black Ocellaris.EDIT: Also wanted to add that I don't really care if they breed, I just want to have a pair that cares for each other. I will have lots of symbiotic relationships like clownfish/anemone and goby/shrimp. Maroons natural host in the wild are BTA's IIRC But they get 6-7 inches and can be incredibly aggressive. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 I would rather have a clown that is more peaceful and stays small. Occies and Percs seem to be the best candidates. Link to comment
Tamberav Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Since you like pairs.. a pair of neon gobys would be cool, they perch together, its cute. Plus they will clean the tang/angel and thats symbiotic and they are small so won't really add anything to a 75g as far as bioload. Pair of cleaner or fire shrimp might be cool too for inverts. Just be sure to get a larger pair and they will be fine with the wrasse. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Soooo.... Pair of Neons, Sharknose, or Yellowlined Gobies (Hybrids) with Angel and Tang Pair of Clowns (Percs, Occies, or SKUNK ) and BTA Pair of Cleaner Shrimp with Angel and Tang Watchman or Sleeper Goby, maybe male/female pair and Candy Cane Pistol Sounds awesome! Link to comment
1.0reef Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Watchmen or Shrimp goby, sleepers just get 7 inches, destroy your sandbed and any frags on it and ignore the shrimp. Sounds cool. Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Watchmen or Shrimp goby, sleepers just get 7 inches, destroy your sandbed and any frags on it and ignore the shrimp. Sounds cool. Really? Watchman it is. Are the male and female distinguishable by color, the female being duller? Link to comment
Tamberav Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Really? Watchman it is. Are the male and female distinguishable by color, the female being duller? Yes, but I believe the female still starts out yellow than turns grey as they age so may be difficult to ID one if it is a younger YWG. I don't think this is 100% fact though Link to comment
llama roadkill Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Yes, but I believe the female still starts out yellow than turns grey as they age so may be difficult to ID one if it is a younger YWG. Cool. I think the female still looks pretty. I will try to see if my LFS can special order them. Off topic, but will a Flame Angel or Coral Beauty be okay in a reef. Link to comment
notwithit Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Yes to flame or coral beauty. Should be ok in your 75. Link to comment
Tamberav Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Cool. I think the female still looks pretty. I will try to see if my LFS can special order them. Off topic, but will a Flame Angel or Coral Beauty be okay in a reef. Hit or miss.. may peck at your corals and clams or may not. Keeping it well feed should help but no guarantee. It should be fine with your fish though. Link to comment
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