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On 12/3/2018 at 11:20 PM, banasophia said:

From my perspective, when someone is new to the saltwater hobby, there’s so much to learn, so it’s good to simplify and not overwhelm people with too much information they aren’t ready for. 

Isn't the flip side of that something like:  

 

"We'll just overwhelm all that fine wild-caught livestock with a newb that just didn't have the info they needed?"

 

I don't think there are too many people that really get overwhelmed when presented with good information.

 

As a newb (we're all newbs in lots of ways), I personally prefer to be overwhelmed with information first.  My hope is that a little info-paralysis is a good thing and will keep me from making (as many) noob-like mistakes! 😄

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4 minutes ago, mcarroll said:

Isn't the flip side of that something like:  

 

"We'll just overwhelm all that fine wild-caught livestock with a newb that just didn't have the info they needed?"

 

I don't think there are too many people that really get overwhelmed when presented with good information.

 

As a newb (we're all newbs in lots of ways), I personally prefer to be overwhelmed with information first.  My hope is that a little info-paralysis is a good thing and will keep me from making (as many) noob-like mistakes! 😄

Glad that works for you, but I find there are many ways to run a reef tank successfully and your way is one way, but not the only way.

 

Like a friend of mine told me when I started the hobby, it can really be as simple or as complex as you want it to be. I spend many, many hours researching and working on my tanks and I like a lot of information, but for many people the KISS method is a better way to go. 

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Also, adding fish to a cycled tank prior to adding corals is not going to jeopardize the health of “all that fine wild-caught livestock.” If that was the case, people would never be able to keep FOWLR systems. And I totally disagree about corals being easier than fish. I’ve never killed a fish, but I have had corals that have not survived in my system. 

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I admit to picking nits at this point, but KISS is system design method, not a method of learning.   

 

I still don't think most folks get confounded when presented with good info.

 

I do think KISS principle is a good thing for most folks to keep in mind when putting their tanks together.  I try to.

 

From the link:

 Leonardo da Vinci's "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication"

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I was thinking about this subject the other day since I am planning out my new 34 gallon reef. With my first reef tank years ago, I added animals and fish with no plan other than "if they will work in my tank". For the most part it worked out, most all of my corals were doing ok but never "thriving". I had more trouble with fish. I think part of the reason was that I was always in my tank adding a new frag here, moving a coral there, acclimating new frags on and on. This was likely a lot of stress on the fish. I battled ich on a few occasions and then later on would lose a fish here and there for unknown reasons. So in my experience, with my new reef tank, I am carefully planning each step and this is how I think I will add my tank inhabitants this go around: 

 

1. cycle tank with dry rock, live sand, corraline algae in a bottle

2. add some cleaners and feed moderately to increase bioload

3. add frags and corals slowly

4. add fish slowly

 

Hands in the tank is only going to add stress to the fish and make them susceptible to disease. This way, once the last fish is added, my hands won't really need to be in the tank and I can sit back, monitor, feed, and enjoy.

 

Not sure if this is the "correct way" or even if there is a "correct way" but this is my approach to my new reef anyways. I am far from a master aquarist but looking back on my first reef, I have no doubts it will go much smoother this time.

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