Prowland Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I about 2 hours I am going to premium aquatics to pick up some LR rubble for frag mounting. Here is a pic of the gorgonia I am going to be fragging: Here is what I am going to be using to make the frags: 1 exacot knife 1/4 in cement drill bit 1 cordless drill 2 buckets of sw 1 pair of scissors 1 tube super glue gel type LR rubble Orange gorgonia I will explain what is used when I have the pics to go along with it. Check back later today to see the progress and wish me luck as this is my second attempt at fragging coral. First was the mushroom. Thanks Link to comment
ODOG Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 1 tip on fragging a gorg. use some wire strippers to pry some of the flesh away from the skelaton. This should make the gorg stick better to the rubble and allow for faster encrusting to your rubble. Link to comment
The Propagator Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 And use an 1/8" or smaller drill bit. Thats roughly how large the diameter of the core of the gorgonian that your going glue in to the hole you drill is going to be. Link to comment
mvite Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Hey I think Texx missed this one---If you frag it and have some extra, PM him he may be interested in some. Link to comment
mahi mahi boy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I don't think Texx can turn down a frag. You live near premium aquatics..... I'm so jealous. Do you know when they get fresh LR in -- nano-LR? Link to comment
mvite Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I don't think Texx can turn down a frag. You live near premium aquatics..... I'm so jealous. Do you know when they get fresh LR in -- nano-LR? Texx turned down a few for me---after PM'ing me 1,583,578,467,433,523 times for pictures. There was that one time he waiting 13 seconds between PM's. I forgot about it but see it on nearly every thread now! So I thought I would make it my official punch line. It fits nearly everywhere!! I might make it my sig for a few days. Unfortunately I don't live near Prem Aqu. I live in PA and have phone ordered from them a few times. Link to comment
mahi mahi boy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Sorry, confusion. I was asking prowland....prowland said he was going to pick up some...and it says he's from Indianapolis, so I just assumed he lives near there. Link to comment
mvite Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Sorry, confusion. I was asking prowland....prowland said he was going to pick up some...and it says he's from Indianapolis, so I just assumed he lives near there. oops--I always try to make it about me! Link to comment
jeremai Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hey prowland - what's the scoop? How'd it go? Save a frag for me? Link to comment
The Propagator Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 oops--I always try to make it about me! Your a dirty post whore mark !! Link to comment
mvite Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 loltexx Hey, what are you laughing at!!??!! Link to comment
Prowland Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hey guys sorry for the wait. I have been super busy! I actualy saved someones life a few days ago. I am going to frag the stuff as soon as I am sure the LR has cycled! Its in a sep. tank I am going to be mounting the frags on LR rubble. The frag will be between 2-4in tall. And will have around 3 branches on it if it works out that way. If you have any special requests on size shoot me a pm and we can work something out. First I would like to trade if you have any small stuff. If not we can do something like $5 plus shipping. That should cover all my costs. If you want it in a thermous then add that in the cost. Along with any other extra shipping items ie. cold packs and what not. I really would like to do an even exchange coral for coral. I will ship first as I have no one on here to vouch that I am not doing a scam. Its friday night and I must go out!!! Cheers Oh and yeah its good and bad that I live close to Premium Aquatics.... Save on shipping but spend more on stuff that I "just have to get" hahahahah Link to comment
The Propagator Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Well....so much for a thread on fraging gorgonians huh? Link to comment
Prowland Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hey now play nice prop... I am starting the fragging right now~ here is a pic of some of the feeders today: Link to comment
Izzue Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hey...why so many micro bubbles sticking to the Gorg...they dont like air to much or algae growing on them 0.02 Izzue Link to comment
mvite Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hey now play nice prop... Don't mind him, he's a dirty post whore! Prop is probably steering it back to gorgs because he has a swimming pool filled with them or something!!!! Link to comment
Prowland Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 That was taken right after doing some cleaning and cleaning out my PH for the first time. Thus the micro bubbles and the algae was due to me not having them in a high flow area. I think. Well the fragging is done! The method I used was in this link and help by prop! http://www.garf.org/GORG03/WINTERGORG.html Link to comment
Prowland Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Okay so here is the in depth post on the fragging with pics... Here are the rocks used: The scissors, drill, exacto knife, and super glue gel: The scissors were used to cut off the frags of gorgonia. The drill was used to drill the holes to place the frags in. The bit i used was just slightly larger than 1/8in. The exacto knife was used to cut the skin of the gorgonia away like in this picture: You do this because the super glue is an irritant to the skin and not to the skeleton of the coral. It also is said to give a stronger bond. After the tissue was stripped away I applied the gel to the hole in the rock and inserted to gorgonia into the hole. I then immediatly put the frag and rock into the salt water as it will help cure the glue and cool it as well. When the gel cures it hets up and can damage the tissue. The water helps with cooling. Here is a picture of one of the frags inserted into the rock: Here is the first one I did. It is the one per jeremai's request. here are a few pics of the mounted frags: Tex your frag is the shorter one per your request. Right now I have 2 extra frags of it if anyone else wants to trade!! This was almost as easy as fragging the mushroom. I am going to let these sit for a week and make sure they take off and nothing goes wrong. Let me know if i missed anything or if you have any questions and sorry for the wait! Link to comment
mvite Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Wow those are really sweet! They don't even look like frags because of where you cut them. Nice!! Link to comment
DementedLullaby Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Nice frag job. I really need to move to the U.S Link to comment
jeremai Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Hot, I love it! I know just where to put it - in the hole made by the Epicystus. Link to comment
mvite Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 What can I trade you for a piece? I have zoas out the wazoo--some very cool montiporas and small acros.....um....lotsa zoas........ I am in PA--How do these ship? Link to comment
irishtexan Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Ok cool! Great job on fragging those! I like my frag too! texx Link to comment
jeremai Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 For anyone interested, the gorgonian in question is Diodogorgia nodulifera. Here is a great article by Rob Toonen on care for them, particularly feeding. It also mentions food particulate sizes for other gorgonians, as well as water velocities ideal for feeding. Since this is a non-photosynthetic gorgonian, pay attention - the article tells you how to keep it alive. Link to comment
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