tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 http://www.fsinutrition.com/products/phosphate.htm hmmmmmmmm Phosphorus 500 mg 50% Sodium 380 mg 16% Potassium 60 mg 2% INGREDIENTS:Sodium Monobasic Phosphate, Sodium Dibasic Phosphate, Potassium Monobasic Phosphate, Maltodextrin, Microcrystalline Cellulose, TriCalcium Phosphate, Magnesium Sterate. so what is best? Sodium Monobasic Phosphate Sodium Dibasic Phosphate Potassium Monobasic Phosphate TriCalcium Phosphate somthing tells me I could just dose "TriCalcium Phosphate" where do I get it thought? Link to comment
Xavier Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 That's exactly where I looked too! Link to comment
tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/hydro/3capo.htm "Monoclinic crystals. d. 2.31. Almost insoluble in water" losers! http://www.suttonsbaytrading.com/Sausage_S...lies/21939.html less than 7 bucks for 16 oz! Link to comment
Xavier Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Well.. think of it this way.. at least if he dies, he's pre-marinated?? hah hah! Link to comment
tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 trisodium phosphate is water soluable but it would mess up my SG. I could put the trisodium phosphate in with my salt and do a water change whenever the phosfates get low. http://www.chemistrystore.com/trisodium_phosphate.htm 9 pounds for under 15 bucks. unfortunatly the ph is 11.5 Link to comment
Xavier Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 X) Could you buffer it back down? Link to comment
tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 of coarse, just find a acidic phosphate and figure out the right mix. Link to comment
Xavier Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Well lets see.. aiptasia seems to love everything we hate in the tank (Phosphates and the such)... do we know what pH it would thrive under? Maybe a high pH would make it do better... Link to comment
tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 lol, it might lso kill the nudis "PHOSPHATE BUFFER, pH 8.4 Prepare 0.25M solution of Sodium Phosphate, Dibasic, in Deionized Water. (Initial pH approx. 9.25) Bring the pH down to 8.4 with with the slow addition of a 0.25M solution of Potassium Phosphate, Monobasic, in water." http://www.biochemicaldiagnostics.com/reagentprep.html Link to comment
Xavier Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 screw the nudi at this point.. I wanna see what the ideal conditions for breeding aiptasia are.. heh heh j/k Link to comment
MaryHM Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 I'd just set up a separate tank with lots of small/medium sized rocks. Then pretend you don't want aiptasia and they'll miraculously appear Seriously, just put a bunch smallish rock in a tank and let them spread on to those and then you can just add rocks as needed to the berghias. Maybe to make them reproduce you could cut off the Aiptasias heads. The stalk will grow a new head and the head will settle and grow a new stalk. Two for the price of one! The berghias need to be fed constantly because they starve really fast. I've noticed that they go from a greyish white color when eating to a stark white color when starving. Can you believe we're having a discussion about how to get more Aiptasia??!! Link to comment
tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 yeah it is kinda funny we are talking about creating optimal conditions for breeding aptasia. Ok, I think I got it. i don't need a fuge, just an emptly power filter FILLED with aptasia. if the supply ever gets low I can just snip one off and it will fal into the tank and will regrow. as far as phophates go I can just try to find some tap water that is hi in phosphates. I could try to find out what cheap foods are VERY high in phosphates. What will the nudis release if they die? Link to comment
ajroahkni Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 IME, if you want a thriving aiptasia farm, just try killing them. Hack them into little pieces, try scraping them off of your LR. They magically reappear and reproduce. TANK O' THE MONTH: AIPTASIA FARM Link to comment
MaryHM Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 I don't know if they release anything when they die. But I know they are extremely hardy if well fed. If you're planning on breeding them, I wouldn't keep them in your main tank. That way if they do die and release something they'll just kill themselves and all of the aiptasia you introduce won't sting anything. Link to comment
tgrupert Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 they are going to be in a special tank just for them. I feel I can make a lot of money if their is only one other place that sells them. I'd be happy to sell them to local fish stores and others in the industry for a fair price. It would be easier than tryying to sell it to individual hobbiests. It wouldn't be hard to trade them for frags either. I just bought a 20 extra tall with a power filter the other day for 20 dollars so I may use thatand set it up near a window once it is dominated by aptasia. Link to comment
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