_cpate3_ Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Hi, I am new to reefing as a whole but have done months of research leading up to this point where I buy my first tank!I got a great deal on facebook marketplace and my specs are:Fluval evo 13.5 tankAI Prime 16hdUpgraded Return Pump50W heaterAqamai KPS powerheadATO systemMedia basketMy dream stocking list is:2 mochavinci clownfishsofites and LPSPOSSIBLY shrimp/goby pairskunk cleaner shrimpand CUCI know there is a lot of disagreement as to whether or not a clown pair will be ok in a 13.5 gallon tank. I am planning on having the tank for 5 years before I can upgrade so I am wondering if it is possible to keep 2 clowns that long in a tank that small. Or if it would be better to do 1 clown and another fish like a basslet.Please be kind as this is my first time posting and I look forward to hearing any tips and feedback! Quote Link to comment
Lebowski_ Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 hours ago, _cpate3_ said: Hi, I am new to reefing as a whole but have done months of research leading up to this point where I buy my first tank!I got a great deal on facebook marketplace and my specs are:Fluval evo 13.5 tankAI Prime 16hdUpgraded Return Pump50W heaterAqamai KPS powerheadATO systemMedia basketMy dream stocking list is:2 mochavinci clownfishsofites and LPSPOSSIBLY shrimp/goby pairskunk cleaner shrimpand CUCI know there is a lot of disagreement as to whether or not a clown pair will be ok in a 13.5 gallon tank. I am planning on having the tank for 5 years before I can upgrade so I am wondering if it is possible to keep 2 clowns that long in a tank that small. Or if it would be better to do 1 clown and another fish like a basslet.Please be kind as this is my first time posting and I look forward to hearing any tips and feedback! Looks real good, tbh. You are right, the Clowns will start to look really cramped, but if you get them young, they will be perfectly happy for a while. People will disagree on if it's enough. Who knows, maybe in 2 years you will change your mind an upgrade early! This hobby is wild like that. Nothing about your dream stocking list is unreasonable. You should know that softies tend to be a bit mean and will sometimes try to kill off other coral (chemically), so if you do mix, you may want to run some high quality carbon and keep a close eye on the LPS for signs of trouble. Otherwise, they should do very well under that Prime 16! I'd plan to start like this: Cycle the tank CUC - then wait a week or so Clowns - then wait a week or so Easy soft coral (there are lots) - then wait a couple weeks If after that things are looking healthy and are vibin, then the door will be open to adding some tougher things. Be careful with Goby/Shrimp, a lot of the pistols can be mean to other CUC members. Good luck 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment
phinatic Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Lebowski_ said: Be careful with Goby/Shrimp ...and also digging under your rock causing it to tip over. Make sure you have solid footing for rocks if you want to avoid squashing coral or scratching your glass. 1 Quote Link to comment
phinatic Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 7 hours ago, _cpate3_ said: 2 mochavinci clownfish I have the same tank and am going with 2 mocha gladiators. I think they are the same fish. Different common names? Quote Link to comment
mcarroll Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 hours ago, _cpate3_ said: Hi, I am new to reefing as a whole but have done months of research leading up to this point where I buy my first tank!I got a great deal on facebook marketplace and my specs are:Fluval evo 13.5 tankAI Prime 16hdUpgraded Return Pump50W heaterAqamai KPS powerheadATO systemMedia basketMy dream stocking list is:2 mochavinci clownfishsofites and LPSPOSSIBLY shrimp/goby pairskunk cleaner shrimpand CUCI know there is a lot of disagreement as to whether or not a clown pair will be ok in a 13.5 gallon tank. I am planning on having the tank for 5 years before I can upgrade so I am wondering if it is possible to keep 2 clowns that long in a tank that small. Or if it would be better to do 1 clown and another fish like a basslet.Please be kind as this is my first time posting and I look forward to hearing any tips and feedback! IMO it is better to consider the smallest fish for the smallest tanks. The fish I see you looking at are mid-sized fish. Clownfish are only semi-exceptions (ie the disagreement you've noted) because their natural lifestyle is sedentary – using an anemone (or substitute) at a home base, and staying there. On that basis alone, one clown can "fit" in a 10 Gallon.....a common "recommendation". A Clownfish is still a mid-size fish in a VERY small tank. Your display is about 10 gallons....."13.5" with filtration section. Taking such a small tank beyond one Clownfish is really pushing it – unless you're talking about "smallest fish" like a neon goby, or similar. What is the sense of inviting problems after all? For Basslets or more Clownfish, go to at least 20 gallons IMO. 30 Gallons gives these kinds of fish a much better living arrangement. In a tank this small, IMO, the best bet is to focus on corals, mostly or even totally. Quote Link to comment
SLA10 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 A pair of clownfish will be fine in 13g tank. Clowns are low energy and don't require alot of tank, if you can buy tank bred clowns even better. I've had clowns in a 50g/75g tanks and they seldom left the corner of the tank near a power head until food hit the water. But I wouldn't add any more fish, I have clowns in 2 tanks of 10g. If you want 2 get a bonded pair, mixing 2 usually leads to an alpha beta relationship which rarely ends well. Quote Link to comment
phinatic Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, SLA10 said: But I wouldn't add any more fish True. @_cpate3_ I mentioned that I am adding clowns, but they are the only fish I am after. Other than that, it is CUC and sexy shrimp (part of the crew). Need to keep the bio-load low in that tank and make sure your filter setup is working well. For your goby, most are too big for this tank. Yellow watchman or two spot could possibly work in that sandbed, but the others will outgrow the tank over time. Quote Link to comment
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