lecroj Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I just cycled my first set of LR and got most of the crab hitchhikers out. The one guy I can't get is a 3/4" mantis that is living in a hole in one of the rocks. He has an escape route because he also comes out underneath the rock. I took the rock out and stabbed the hole with stiff wire but it didn't die. I also set a little bottle trap in front of the hole with a piece of shrimp in it, but he wont leave the rock to go inside. I was thinking about using a can of spray air keyboard cleaner next but I doubt that will get him out. Any ideas on how to get this guy out before I add more rock? Link to comment
supernip Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 you can freeze that rock or dunk it in fw and wait it out Link to comment
lecroj Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 I assume both methods would kill all the stuff on the rock? Do you think the mantis will emerge from the rock if I put it in fresh water? Thanks Link to comment
Giannis86 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I assume both methods would kill all the stuff on the rock? Do you think the mantis will emerge from the rock if I put it in fresh water? Thanks you can also try putting the rock in hypersaline water with a combination of name calling the last wont help much but might make you feel better Link to comment
Rehype Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 It might not kill everything but it will kill most life.. The mantis should emerge after you put it in the water. That tends to get rid of most hitchhikers... Link to comment
Tinytank Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 How about sell or trade it instead of killing it. Link to comment
Kingken Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 How about sell or trade it instead of killing it. +1 Try to get it out, then maybe keep it in a little tank until you find someone to take it off your hands... Link to comment
DaJMasta Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 How long did you wait with the trap? It can often take things a couple of days to get used to new objects and surroundings, so it may not have any effect for a bit after adding it. I'd also consider leaving the rock out of the water for 12-24 hours, with a piece of damp newspaper or a damp towel on it. This sort of mimics how rocks tend to be shipped, but more importantly: when you put the rock back in the water, all the critters seem to jump off of it. Link to comment
lecroj Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 Aborted the little guy. Set the rock half in fresh water (kept the side with all of the sponges above water) and then shot fresh water in the hole with a turkey baster. After about 10 minutes he came to where I could see him and I cut him in half with a giant cooking needle. He was about an inch long and red. Now the only hitchhikers left are tiny crabs that shouldn't be a problem for a year or so. Thanks for the fresh water idea. Link to comment
Jbs77 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I would have bagged him up, and sold/traded him locally. People love those specimen tanks. Link to comment
Jacobnano Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Why do people kill these thing??? Link to comment
franklypre Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 People kill these guys because they split fingers, bust tanks, and kill fish or anything else they can. I would suggest a nice magnesium supplement for eliminating all unwanted pests. Get it up there around 1800 or so. Link to comment
Jacobnano Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 They are also incredibly interesting. The most advanced eyes in the animal kingdom and one of the fastest (if not the fastest) movement in the animal kingdom. So many people love keeping them haha! Link to comment
franklypre Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I agree 110% but spiders are interesting as well and most people stomp them too. I recently found out I have a pistol shrimp, I have no intentions of killing it even though I really don't like them in my main tank. Specialized tanks are wonderful for this kind of stuff, my wife just won't let me set any more up. Link to comment
Jacobnano Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Haha very true, then again I like spiders too Ahh very cool. They are neat too. I was thinking a small mantis could live in my fuge haha. Link to comment
franklypre Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 The snapping will drive you insane, I thought I had a major issue with my equipment for the last month or so and a week ago I found the molt, I was relieved. Link to comment
Jacobnano Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Haha ohhh that is very true lol. Link to comment
coolwaters Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 try ultra high salinity. they should run out of hiding. and wont harm your live rock. Link to comment
Mustang Boy Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 ok somebody earlier mentioned that they are tank breakers and that is a very rare occasion that has been way over exagerated(sp?). there are only a few species that are able to break a tank and that is only if they are nearly full grown and are in a tank way to small to house them. the mantis that came with your rock was probably an n. wennerae that only grows to about 3in and couldnt break glass if it wanted to. i have one in my 46g bowfront that sits right next to my bed and the tapping isnt that bad i actually like it. i love these little guys and hate when somebody who is ill informed kills them because they think they are the devils of sw fishkeeping. you could have bagged him up there are many many many people on this forum alone who would have given you $10-20 for him and he would have lived a long happy life in a species tank. Link to comment
joe yazz :D Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 mustang. you should have told that to me when i came home one day to see my room soaked with 120 gallons. SO YOU TELL ME is it worth a stupid shrimps life. so much worst stuff happens in the world and your looking at a little shrimp that can break 1200 dallors+corals and fish and you think its worth that little things life. to answer that. scare it into a rock and then rip the rock out of your tank and then give it a saltwater bath. or if you REALLY want to get back at him for killing your crabs (lamfo) put him in some sparking water. and if it brakes your tank its dead any ways. so its a lose lose for you Link to comment
joe yazz :D Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 o yes. sparking water will make it fly out of that rock. becuse of the c02 and then you can talk shiit about that shrimps mother Link to comment
Tinytank Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 mustang. you should have told that to me when i came home one day to see my room soaked with 120 gallons. SO YOU TELL ME is it worth a stupid shrimps life. so much worst stuff happens in the world and your looking at a little shrimp that can break 1200 dallors+corals and fish and you think its worth that little things life. to answer that. scare it into a rock and then rip the rock out of your tank and then give it a saltwater bath. or if you REALLY want to get back at him for killing your crabs (lamfo) put him in some sparking water. and if it brakes your tank its dead any ways. so its a lose lose for you So a mantis broke your 120??? Bulllllll shhhhhh Link to comment
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