Ando Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hey quick questions. How many cups of Instant Ocean Reef Crystals do you guys add for 5 gallons? OR What do you add per gallon... I know this is a dumb question, But I can seem to get 1.025 every time lol. Quote Link to comment
marinebiologist Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 1/2 cup for every gallon Quote Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 You still need to test and adjust. Quote Link to comment
Ando Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 I will usually test it.. But I can't ever seem to get it at 1.025. lol Unless I add pure water to it. Quote Link to comment
Kool-cat Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I usually add like 3 cups of Tropic Marin . Quote Link to comment
m'akoyPINOY Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 i do w/c with use the reef crystal bucket.7 cup and it's 1.026.. Quote Link to comment
Ando Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 i do w/c with use the reef crystal bucket.7 cup and it's 1.026.. So u mean 2/3 Cup per gallon? I would like to get the salinity at 1.026 Quote Link to comment
neanderthalman Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 1/2 cup per gallon. Careful though. I bought cheapo measuring cups just for this purpose...and they were not as labeled. The 1/2 cup was more like 7/8 cup. Quote Link to comment
Ando Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Alright thanks! Quote Link to comment
filefish949 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 IIRC I use 8 pounds 9 oz for 30 gallons to get 35ppt Quote Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 For Instant Ocean, you will need a little more than 0.5 cups per gallon. I think the manufacturer calculated 0.5 cups/gal for getting 1.023 instead of 1.025. In any case, it's easy to just put more than enough and then dilute with freshwater to the desired s.g. Don't forget to have proper temperature if you are using a hydrometer to test s.g. Quote Link to comment
filefish949 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 and don't forget to test for MG if you are using a refractometer Quote Link to comment
PSYS Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I just got my pico up and running. I purchased Tropic Marin Pro Reef salt and I'm surprised there's no indication of how much salt to use anywhere on the box. It was a lot of trial and error until I got the right salinity. I would think they just could make a general blanketed statement like "Salinity = 1.024 if you use 1/2 cup @ 80 degrees." Or whatever. Is the 1/2 cup per gallon a good general rule of thumb for most salt mixes??? Quote Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Is the 1/2 cup per gallon a good general rule of thumb for most salt mixes??? That's what Oceanic recommends. Quote Link to comment
SulfurAcid Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The best rule of thumb is probably to add the recommended amount, and always test using hydrometer, refractometer. Quote Link to comment
Steel Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 the temp of the water will cause the SG to vary. Quote Link to comment
PSYS Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The best rule of thumb is probably to add the recommended amount, and always test using hydrometer, refractometer. Yeah, that's what I mean... there's not even a "recommended" amount on this box of Tropic Marin Pro Reef. Not a big deal, but you'd think they'd provide that. Quote Link to comment
filefish949 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 the temp of the water will cause the SG to vary. but not the salinity, that is why I like doing it by weight Quote Link to comment
owned162 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 and don't forget to test for MG if you are using a refractometer Might be a stupid question, but why do you test MG if using a refractometer? Cheers Quote Link to comment
PSYS Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I e-mailed Tropic Marin last night and here is their reply: "Hi Scott, To get a specific gravity of 1.024 you need to add 4.5 cups of one of our salts each to 10 gallon of RO/DI water. To get the average natural salinity of 35 ppt/psu equal to a specific gravity of 1.0264 you need to add 5 cups each ten gallon. We can recommend to add 4.5 cups of salt to the RO/DI water, to check the specific gravity and to adjust the water to desired value. I hope this helps. All the best, Lou Ekus Director of US Operations Tropic Marin USA 44 Center Street Montague, MA. 01351 voice: 413-367-0101 fax: 413-367-0144 www.tropicmarin-usa.com Quote Link to comment
filefish949 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Might be a stupid question, but why do you test MG if using a refractometer?Cheers because MG has a much higher refractive index than sodium chloride, and the salinity estimates made by a refractometer are dependant upon a known MG concentration Quote Link to comment
owned162 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 because MG has a much higher refractive index than sodium chloride, and the salinity estimates made by a refractometer are dependant upon a known MG concentration Wow, after all the reading I've done over the last 2 years I've never heard this before... Thankyou So what should the MG be at to have a salinity of 1.0264? Cheers Quote Link to comment
Ando Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 alright well for 5 gallon I used 6 1/2 cups and my salt level was 1.026. Quote Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 alright well for 5 gallon I used 6 1/2 cups and my salt level was 1.026. Are you sure? That seems excessive. How are you testing? Quote Link to comment
PSYS Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 That really does seem excessive. I'm no expert and I know every salt mix will vary a little... but considering the guy at Tropic Marin advised: "To get the average natural salinity of 35 ppt/psu equal to a specific gravity of 1.0264, you need to add 5 cups each ten gallon." You're well above that ratio even if we aren't talking about the exact same kind of salt mix. Could they realy vary by several cups of salt? I've no idea but it doesn't seem likely? Quote Link to comment
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