w1dude Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I bought a 40g half cylinder with a 10g sump 2 days ago. Everything was running perfect when I picked it up. I got home set it up and it ran fine over night. Around 4 the next day My dad called and said there was water everywhere. When I got home there was only about 20 gallons of water in there. My dad had unplugged the pump, but when i plugged it back up it wouldn't work. It is a quiet one external pump. It looked old and I cant find a pic like it. WHAT WENT WRONG? It ran fine then just went everywhere Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Can you post pics of the set-up configuration? Link to comment
NanoReefNovice Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 no check valve or anti-siphon hole on the supply? Link to comment
w1dude Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 no check valve or anti-siphon hole on the supply? im not sure i have that? Link to comment
rean_jem Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 can you at least describe how the plumbing is especially the feed going to the sump so we can better asses the situation. the anti siphon hole is put on the pipe at a level you want the siphon to stop. Link to comment
w1dude Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 can you at least describe how the plumbing is especially the feed going to the sump so we can better asses the situation. the anti siphon hole is put on the pipe at a level you want the siphon to stop. sorry for being stupid but which pipe? Link to comment
uwwmatt Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Was water overflowing from the sump or from the display? If it was from the display then your return was not functioning correctly or blocked. If it was your sump then your pump probably failed and when the water started flowing back into the sump it caused a vacuum to suck water out of your display. Link to comment
rean_jem Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 how deep is the return (the pipe going inside the aquarium from the pump)? if the pipe is submerged halfway in the aqurium and theres no hole on the pipe about 1in from the water level, then when the pump quits working or a power failure the water will siphon back to the sump. if you have a liffle hole (about 2small ones in case one gets clogged) on your feed then as the water goes down to the hole it will suck air and lose siphon. post pics of display also. Link to comment
neanderthalman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Can't see any glaring issues from those photos. You're missing a hose clamp on the intake to your pump, but no biggie. Wouldn't cause a leak like this. You're going to have to look for evidence (moisture, salt creep) of what was wet and what was not. Rule of thumb - the highest point is the water source. ID that, and we might be able to figure this out. Link to comment
Otto Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 You could have a leak on the drain. In the second pic, it looks like you have clear tubing connected to a piece of PVC pip with no barb and just a clamp is holding it on. With the weight of the hanging pipe filled with water it might pull out. What was the water level in the display and sump? Link to comment
w1dude Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 You could have a leak on the drain. In the second pic, it looks like you have clear tubing connected to a piece of PVC pip with no barb and just a clamp is holding it on. With the weight of the hanging pipe filled with water it might pull out. What was the water level in the display and sump? From what i can see it was the sump overflowing because it was very high when i got home and the display was low and wasnt wet from water coming out. SO I would say the sump. I will try to get pics of the display Link to comment
w1dude Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 what other ways can i "ass" you lol Link to comment
neanderthalman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Can we see a pic of the front of the tank? Specifically need to see the rest of your return line. Link to comment
r20crazy Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 you need a check valve. if your pump failed and you don't have one the display will dump into the sump and flood everything unless your sump is big enough to hold all the extra, which 10g in this case isn't enough. the water level will equalize in this case when when the water level in the tank is BELOW the return nozzles and the backsiphon is broken. the check valve prevents this, as it only allows water to flow in one direction. PLEASE don't buy a spring loaded check valve, or you'll have other issues due to it rusting. get a flapper type valve. if you woulda have done a FW test outside you coulda found this issue b4 the indoor flood. ALWAYS test plumbing outside, NEVER assume you did it right (or someone else did for that matter) Link to comment
xbwolfx Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 is it possible that the kink in the return caused it? it doesn't look completely blocked in those pics, but perhaps it was worse before all the water flooded. Link to comment
rean_jem Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (Scott Riemer @ Jan 19 2009, 11:10 AM) *laugh.gif what other ways can i "ass" you lol wow, dude thats a nice way of saying thank you after pm'ing me at 7am asking for help i hope the diagram i sent before i saw this helped you and i really am not surprised your aquarium flooded coz of the way you think. heres the pic for other people to learn. Link to comment
neanderthalman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 wow, dude thats a nice way of saying thank you after pm'ing me at 7am asking for help i hope the diagram i sent before i saw this helped you and i really am not surprised your aquarium flooded coz of the way you think. heres the pic for other people to learn. Wow, butthurt much? Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 wow, dude thats a nice way of saying thank you after pm'ing me at 7am asking for help i hope the diagram i sent before i saw this helped you and i really am not surprised your aquarium flooded coz of the way you think. heres the pic for other people to learn. Just a little joking around on my part, no harm intended. Link to comment
BKtomodachi Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ..... ###### just got real. Link to comment
xbwolfx Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 humor isn't appreciated outside of the lounge. Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 humor isn't appreciated outside of the lounge. I'm not sure it's appreciated there either. Link to comment
xbwolfx Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm not sure it's appreciated there either. it is. you're just not funny. Link to comment
Scott Riemer Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 it is. you're just not funny. I know. Link to comment
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