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50W MH Reef: 2G Vase Pico, 50W 14000K HQI + ATO & Skimmer


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11-30-08:

 

Ittems are now fro sale: Skimmer/ATO/ MH Light.

 

See my for sales thread!

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...177536&st=0

 

5-5-08 Update. Finally, Let there be light:

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For details of my 50W 14,000K MH build, go to the end of the thread.

 

 

Start of the thread:

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My 4G 35W HID PICO was moved to work. Which left an empty space in my home crying to be filled.

Picked up a huge 9" round Vase at Christmas Tree shop for $10. Thus, started my All-in-one Vase Pico build. I always wanted to try a round tank, although it's going to be more challenging to build.

 

Here is a start of Tank set-up:

 

Divider is built to host pump & micro skimmer. After the overflow slots but before skimmer,

there's a long & thin chamber for filter pad & carbon. The pump has a built in sponge filter as well.

 

The lid is DIY cut of a 0.5" Thick Acrylic. The thickness is key to insulate heat & will allow

future upgrade to MH lighting to sit directly on top (Same design as my 35W MH HID Pico for heat insulation.)

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The front View with light on, Sorry for the dirty glass. I just finished the lid, should have done some cleaning first. The light is Coral life 18W 50/50. It was 5"x9" long but I chopped it down to 7" long to fit neatly on top.

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Back View of Sump Chamber: 9' Micro Skimmer & Pump with built-in filtration:

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Last Pic: View of The Carbon chamber. This is the Filter pad/carbon from Taam Rio nano Skimmer,

from my 4G Tank. I just build a few slots to slide it in behind the return flow.

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Hey, looks like this will be a fun tank to watch. What are you planning as far as livestock?

 

Watching with interest.

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Thanks, Guys

 

As far as stocking goes, Tank is for my sone, so Crab & Shrimp first. Probably a tiny goby at soem point.

 

Later, upgrade the light to MH. Then a clam is the target if I can pull it off.

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First Photos of my tank with Liverock work.

 

It's a whole piece & I cut it in shape to fit in the vase. It's got a bunch of

green buttons all over. The left side of rock work is cut low to reserved

a spot for a Clam. I know I am going get some heat for this, Clam in a Vase?

Flame suit on :lol:

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Full Tank View, The carbon Fiber was meant for my car wheel project,

I am stealing yet another application from my automotive hobby.

Carbon Fiber Wrap around hide the curved part of the vase bottom,

making it into a round column tank. This complete the look I envisioned

before starting the tank, let me know what do you guys think.

Water is not very clear, as it's not settled down yet.

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Hey! I like this... its different. The carbon fiber reminds me of a Ducati I used to have. God that was a while ago! Anyways, I'll be following along because my main love is picos. Great job so far!

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Chic with a Ducati? You must had a wild past :lol:

 

I had almost killed my yank. Came home last night, water temp is over 90.

Turns out that my heater was malfunctioning. It's a Hydor Theo 50W,

it just kept heating & the thermostat isn't shutting it off.

Glad I caught that.

 

My big Mexican turbo was lying on his belly, I moved him back to the 46G tank & he recovered.

Buttons are closed but I hope they'll recover.

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Chic with a Ducati? You must had a wild past :lol:

 

You betcha! I didn't drive it though. It was my ex-huband's. I had a lot of fun ~ let's just leave it at that. B)

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My replacement heater is on the way, so the tank is not heated at the moment.

 

Temp. low is 72 & High is 78. Anyone know if the Zoa buttons with such temp. swings will be ok?

They have not opened up since the 90 degree heat shock a few days ago.

Some are spitting out some brown staff at the button center but not a lot.

 

In the mean time, there's hardly any evaporation as the tank is completely covered (but not sealed).

The skimmer is running & got some nasty skimmate out, so I think the tank is oxgenated fine.

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My replacement heater is on the way, so the tank is not heated at the moment.

 

Can I ask what kind of heater you are getting? I'm looking for something smaller for my 2.5.

 

BTW, I love the tank. Very creative and it's looking cool so far!

 

Thanks.

 

:)

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Can I ask what kind of heater you are getting? I'm looking for something smaller for my 2.5.

 

BTW, I love the tank. Very creative and it's looking cool so far!

 

Thanks.

 

:)

 

I am getting another Hydor Theo, this time 25W. I believe 25W is the lowest watt heater you can

get with a thermostat. Smaller than that, there are 15W, 7.5W & 5W heaters, they just heat without Thermostat.

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Well, I finally got the 25W heater & it's working now. Temp. is 78 +/- 2.

Just added this little guy: Bicolor Blenny, His lower body is yellow but not visible here:

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Here is a photo of the 8" Pico Skimmer in action, I am amazed as it's just a $10 item from ebay (HK).

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Small update:

 

I plan to frag some SPS from my big tank into this vase & possibly add a clam, but first I have to

complete the light upgrade. I moved my 70W MH 14000K from my big tank over to the vase tank

just to see what's the level of light I needs, it turns out to be way too bright. My eyes started

hurting after watching the tank for a few minutes. What's the point of having a tank & I can't even look at it?

The front viewing part of the tank is only about 1.5 gallon, so 70W is out.

 

I could do a 35W HID but I already did that to my other pico, it's time to create something new, also hopefully cheaper.

 

I have a plan drummed up to do a 50W MH this time. This has never being done to my knowledge.

So stay turned & wish me luck. I will be out for a business trip for a week, so I won't be able to get on it right away. However, I am ordering all the parts & plan to get on it as soon as I get back.

 

I even changed the title of my thread in anticipation of success. Hope I am not being over confident.

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Got anywhere with that 50W MH yet?

 

Almost there, Just got back from a trip, only had one evening to work o it:

 

Cut to fit fixture from an antique stainless steel stripe light (ebay)

It will be wrapped into Carbon Fiber fixture when done.

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Bulb is in, has it's own tiny German polished aluminum reflector, got two fans for this project:

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I was able to fit only one fan in. There's room for two, but it's too hard to

cut open the stainless steel. I wish it was aluminum. The fan is 13 cfm, hope it's enough.

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Last one: Complete in side shot. A metal piece

is put in between the fan & the bulb to block direct radiation path, there's only 1"

distance between the bulb & the plastic fan, I was afread the plastic fan could melt.

 

A piece of glass (from a 99 cent picture frame) was put in to shield UV. More

importantly, it blocks the heat from the bulb & provide a air flow channel

to direct the air to come in from left side, go over the bulb then exit the fan.

 

I've seen guys put in 4 fans on a 70W DIY hood & still couldn't control the heat,

which has more to do with poor air flow design. My previous 70W MH DIY also have

just one fan, but it's 20CFM & in bigger fixture. This tiny fixture has an internal space of just 3"x7".

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The Ballast is ordered & should be here soon. I also ebayed two 12V wide angle 1W Blue LED

to be put into the space on the left of the MH bulb for Actinic night viewing.

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