TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 So im thinking it might be a good idea to atleast ask if there is such a thing im thinking about gettin my ap12 to be alot of stonies eventually n i wanted to know if there was a calc reactor i could us or if im just better off dosing myself if i do get one itll be after i mod a fuge which will make it between 18-22g any ideas? Link to comment
Matty1124 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 dont quote me on this but i think calvin415, a member here, might be comming out with a series of nano calc reactors Link to comment
Gwoardnog Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 you could use the largest caclium reactor ever created... you just wouldn't have to add new media but once every year or two. Link to comment
TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 i could get a huge one, id rather get a smaller one though just because of size constraints as well as cost its a nano for a reason! i dont have room for bigger! Edit: 1,000!!!!!!! big times now Link to comment
Uhuru Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=153202 Link to comment
dtfleming Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 via aqua makes one with a bubble counter built in, Im considering one also for my 26. sps in the tank is killing me with two-part dosing. you would still need a regulator and co2 tank. Link to comment
Maeda Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 in a 12g i would stick to 2 part dosing. A small failure in a 12g could mean a total loss. Link to comment
imisky Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 im currently using the Via Aqua ACRO-CAL reactor it only costed me 50$ to get here in Canada. it works great and its easy to set. a great piece of equip for $50 link: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http...NCA253%26sa%3DN Link to comment
TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 im currently using the Via Aqua ACRO-CAL reactor it only costed me 50$ to get here in Canada. it works great and its easy to set. a great piece of equip for $50 link: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http...NCA253%26sa%3DN wow great find! alright someone please explain to me exactly how a ca reactor works then i can know exactly what i need to get are you saying im going to need an external CO2 tank? Link to comment
Matty1124 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 how much does it cost to get your CO2 set up? i have been thinking about this for a while but im a little baffled by what all you need and how to go about setting it up... Link to comment
abe Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 i could get a huge one, id rather get a smaller one though just because of size constraints as well as costits a nano for a reason! i dont have room for bigger! Edit: 1,000!!!!!!! big times now i did some calculations... it'd be 800+ for me to setup CA for my 285g Link to comment
dtfleming Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Basically with the via aqua you would need a co2 tank and regulator for it. Link to comment
TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Basically with the via aqua you would need a co2 tank and regulator for it. ha nice, how much would that cost would you say im guessing i can get a small tank of co2 n not have to get the huge scuba sized one can anyone just give me a good idea of what id be instore for if i tried to do this? what are the pros vs cons n ect Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 dont quote me on this but i think calvin415, a member here, might be comming out with a series of nano calc reactors Yes, and I have all nano models (3 series) available right now. I don't have a shopping cart setup yet, but just PM me if you want to work something out. http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=152896 Link to comment
Nanoized Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Tunze I need an ATO and saw the attachment to add calcium (see link below) http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&...r_tunzeprod_pi1 then click on water level..then tunze Osmolator accessories...direct link doesn't work for some reason. Anyone have this combo or know of any reviews. Andreas Link to comment
TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 alright so from what im understanding im going to need the following: a place to put the calcium, the reactor itself CO2 tank regulator pH sensor maybe bubble counter and tubing to go in an out am i missing nething? can anyone give me some prices on some of this stuff? Link to comment
imisky Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 heres the cost i spent on my Ca reactor: Via Aqua ACRO-Cal reactor :$60.00 Rowalith C+ (6.0KG): $40.00 zeomag: (1.0KG): $15.00 2nd hand 5lb CO2 cylinder+ regulator: $120.00 *not needed* milwuakee PH controller: $120.00 total without PH controller: $235.00 total with PH controller: $355.00 if you want an idea of how well the via aqua ca reactors work feel free to follow my 30g thread. It keeps my Ca at 380ppm, Alk at 9d, and Mg at 1380ppm. Link to comment
filefish949 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 the thing is that the weak link in any reactor system is usaly the regulater, the ones made for beer kegs are just no where near precise enough for us. you end up with wildly varrying ph inside the reactor unless you use a ph controler, but even that is a bandaid, so you need to spend at least $150 on a regulator, co2 setup is going to run at least $250, and $200 for the reactor, or you could just put in an order to bulkreefsupply.com for $100 shipped and get about a 5 year supply of 2part for a nano Link to comment
TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 heres the cost i spent on my Ca reactor: Via Aqua ACRO-Cal reactor :$60.00 Rowalith C+ (6.0KG): $40.00 zeomag: (1.0KG): $15.00 2nd hand 5lb CO2 cylinder+ regulator: $120.00 *not needed* milwuakee PH controller: $120.00 total without PH controller: $235.00 total with PH controller: $355.00 if you want an idea of how well the via aqua ca reactors work feel free to follow my 30g thread. It keeps my Ca at 380ppm, Alk at 9d, and Mg at 1380ppm.[/quote just read over your post your tank is beautiful i have a few question i could really use answered though how do you figure out how many drips perday are required to mantain your pH Ca Mg and Alk? also how bulky is the whole set up? id imagine its probably not easy with the co2 tank and everything how long is the co2 tank lasting? Where does your PH controller reside? is it in the reactor to keep track of the pH in there to make sure everything is disolving or in ur tank to make sure ur not adding to much? Edit: Just read files post it seems like thats the much more cost effective method, is it harder to maintain with the 2 part? im going to be at school alot, and im trying to get my rents to take care of it which they are willing to do but they are both busy, and the less matenince required for them on a daily basis the better they are willing to top off and feed and do water changes n stuff but daily addition of 2 parts might be to much for them i might have to scrap the whole sps idea untill later Link to comment
dtfleming Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I believe he has the ph probe in the fuge area and it is using it to shutoff the reactor if the ph drops too much. I dosing 2-part like crazy on my 26 due to sps demands. Im gonna add kalk to my topoff and see how that does. Then I may go the ca reactor route, but i know im gonna spend around 250 for that. Link to comment
adamskit Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I have a RSM setup with a CA Reactor and Kalk Reactor. I would not even attempt to add a CA Reactor on a nano without a PH controller. CA reactors drive PH down drastically and can result in disaster without the safety net of a controller. Link to comment
Matty1124 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 the other thing iwas thinking about is a klak (sp?) reactor... i have seen some cool DIY on this but im very confused with them... the seem cheaper and do the same thing? im just getting tired of 2 part Link to comment
filefish949 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 ok, the corredt way to do it with a Ph prob is with a 2 probe controler. the first probe is in the actual reaction chamber, it controls the selanoid to keep the pH inside thereactor around 5.0 YMMV to keep it acidic enough to disolve the calcium carbonate media. the 2nd probe is put in the sump as a safety mesure to shut down the selanoid if the tank pH goes below your setpoint, say 8.0, even if you think 7.9 is ok, the tank pH will continue to drop even after the selanoid is shut down, idealy you want that safety probe to also activate a dosing pump to bring the pH back up to 8.1 or so by slowley adding kalkwasser. you can avoid using the internal pH probe by using a high quality regulator but that is going to cost you. you set the drip rate by mesuring the carbonat hardness of the effluant, this may take days as you make a small adjustment and let it run fo an hour to see what happened then test KH again. wash rinse repeat wash rinse repeat until you have your desired effluant hardness, say 14 dkh Link to comment
TheUnfocusedOne Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 the other thing iwas thinking about is a klak (sp?) reactor... i have seen some cool DIY on this but im very confused with them... the seem cheaper and do the same thing? im just getting tired of 2 part im interested too anything to make reefing as easy and matenience free as possible Link to comment
filefish949 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 the other thing iwas thinking about is a klak (sp?) reactor... i have seen some cool DIY on this but im very confused with them... the seem cheaper and do the same thing? im just getting tired of 2 part to efectively maintain correct alkilinity and calcium levels with kalkwasser alone requiers (either, and, or) a low demand rate (no clams and few sps) a high evaperation rate. kalkwasser is not very concentrated so you have to add a lot. it is great for maintaning pH and suplementing a primary Ca/Alk plan, but is very hard to be an effective primary Ac/Alk supliment plan Link to comment
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