82SC Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 in the quest to grow SPS and Maximas I am trying to get as much lighting as possible...do you think this is enough? they are 13W Power compacts each... Link to comment
adinsxq Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 you're asking to get flamed. the fire kind :| "cooked clams. sounds delicious" - supernip Link to comment
supernip Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Thats the most kick ass thing I have ever seen. Try to fit some halides in there as well!:love: And post some pics of that badboy in action, minus the salt creep guy Link to comment
Jim_i Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Whoa! Thats some lighting in that little hood bud. They're gonna see that from space once the top melts off Link to comment
82SC Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 hahaha...don't worry...I have my nomex suit on... but seriously...isn't that melted tank a nano that tried MH's without any cooling? I am running only 5 bulbs right now and monitoring heat in the tank as well as my hood...as long as those are not ridiculous and my craftsmanship is okay I think this setup will provide enough light and avoid any disasters... I still have to clean up some of the wiring...and reroute my power cords so that I can have 2 act as my dawn/dusk lights and the other 4 act as my full daytime lights hey I could have gone 8....but 6 x 13 = 78W of light for a 6 gal. the maxima in my tank was doing well with 4 PC...but now it has opened up even more and shows some more color... If this light setup is stable in a couple months I may want to try my hand at some SPS.... If this mistake has been made before let me know...I don't know if my setup and that MH is comprable since MH are so much more powerful and heat producing PCs... I am open to listen if someone has a very logical and rational explaination why this setup is 100% doomed to fail...shoot...all I have to do is flip a switch and cut my light setup in half... not trying to ruffle feathers...but I think this will help me try my hand at more specimens that might need more lighting...plus it is pretty cool BTW what is the "salt creep guy" Link to comment
adinsxq Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 mmkay um.. 1. those gx23 sockets you got there are not made water-resistant... let alone salt-resistant (and judging by your picture i think you have some splashage issues) 2. those twisty things you joined your wires with are not to moisture/salt friendly either (mmm sparkies) 3. the configuration of the top (front) 4-bulb set is not at all efficient. half of the light is bouncing around in weird dirrections and back into the bulb hth gl. EDIT: oh is this... this tank? http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/showthread...&threadid=11850 wow. year old? nice. Link to comment
82SC Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 ok...good suggestions 1) yeah I noticed the splashing too...I've corrected that. My spray bar was pointed slightly upwards and was splashing the hood...and I think I may use some thin plexiglass to sperate the lights from the tank itself 2) yeah I wondered about the sockets and the connectors. A&H lights never mentioned anything about the sockets...for the twist connectors I plan to seal them...maybe with some liquid electrical tape or shrink tubing...do you have any suggestions to protect the sockets? 3) again something I thought of...I know the reflectors were specifically designed for one bulb...but then that reduces my tank to three 13W bulbs...hardly enough to grow some of the speicmens I like...so I sacrificed efficiency for wattage gain do you think it is so inefficient that it would be better to go back to 2? and yes that is my tank...like I said the tank crashed last year...and this new setup is about 4 months old I do have a refugium 10gal so I hope that cuts down on heating issues as well as making the tank more stable here is a recent pic...the toadstool looks funky cuz I just cleaned the front the sun polyps are a new edition and opened up last night for the first time keep em coming...It's good to hear from the more experienced nanoers MJ hth gl.? not sure what that means Link to comment
82SC Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 oh and anyone have a good suggestions as to the combinations of bulbs I should run? I have: combo 10K from AH supply blue 6500K 10K white from http://www.neptunesreef.com/bulbs.htm#BULBS I plan for the rear reflector to be my dawn dusk setup...and the front as the full daytime Thanks MJ Link to comment
hicksonj Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 IMO...... I think you should graduate to a glass tank. For $9.99 at petco, you can move all your life to a new 10G tank and have unlimited lighting options. If you search though their stock, one may have plate glass base that you could drill and move that spray bar over to. It would suck to loose all your life to a electric fault or god forbid a fire Link to comment
SupaJSK Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Wow, that is....uh....impressive... Looks like a rice rocket version of a nano tank. What caused your tank to crash the last time? Maybe you should just get a larger tank (glass as advised above) with a MH, instead of risking meltdown with that thing. I bet you are into modifying everything you own...I am like that too. The car, the computer, cell phone...hahaha. Good luck ! Link to comment
82SC Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 dude...why do you have to call is rice rocket...?? btw I do own a 96 civic...and I think I have tastfully upgraded it with undertray lighting and a supra wing... I don't know why everytime anyone wants to customize something they own people have to make fun of if....I think the import market is the next big thing...bling bling the tank crashed last time cuz i didn't have enough light for the animals I wanted to have in my tank and they died....I had a know it all friend who was guiding, but after finding this board I found out how little he knew you don't seem to have any constructive suggestions on my current setup...no I don't want to start a brand new setup.... anyone have suggestions??? MJ Link to comment
SupaJSK Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Don't worry I'm not hating on yoru nano or your civic. Got nothing but love for you... I only suggested you get a glass tank setup like hicksonj above did. If you are not open to suggestions, whether good or bad, whats the point of posting on a public board like this... Don't be a hater. Link to comment
82SC Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 dude...step off you are really crowding my thread...just repeating what other members have said already... don't you have any new suggestions?? do you even have a nano???? why are you being such a hater? I repeat anyone have USEFUL comment unlike Mr. supa ####### Santa Klaus??? Link to comment
SAILFIN Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 OK why are you getting mad at ppl or giving there opinions? In my own opinion i would go with a glass tanks also then you could possiably straighten out that lighting disaster under that eclipse hood. Unless of course you just want to live dangerous and have your house burn down because of your tank? I dont think mommy and daddy would apprciate that very much? WOULD THEY? Your tank looks good but would be so much safer with a glass tank and custom canopy with a splash gaurd over all those lights, you can already see salt creep and slash on the lights not good. Ok thats my 2 cents GET A GLASS TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
adinsxq Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 there is nothing wrong with the acrylic tanks. 82SC does not NEED a new glass tank. there is nothing wrong with modified eclipse hoods as long as the proper precautions are taken. Link to comment
caja Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Well said adin. My retrofitted Eclipse, properly wired with the CSL kit and a darn fine drip loop is quite nice. That being said, I'll soon be setting up my c-marks all glass tank to take the plunge into dueling nanos. Link to comment
SAILFIN Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 there is nothing wrong with modified eclipse hoods as long as the proper precautions are taken. i agree fully but from the looks of it, it dont look at all done proper or with many precautions. IMO it looks like a fire waiting to happen. I have nothing against the tank it looks real nice and everything looks real happy, just worried about someone losing their tank, home or even life from something so silly. Link to comment
82SC Posted May 10, 2003 Author Share Posted May 10, 2003 ok...you guys are very helpful... I just don't like this supa Jerk Suck Kock guy... but since I am a beginner nanoer and I think my tank has some really happy and cool specimens in there can you give me suggestions?? I guess I am in the more is better mentality...I plan to clean up the wiring and seal all possible problem areas... I plan to cover the top of the tank to prevent splash and salt creep (now I get it) and protect from any mishaps and I think I will be installing a fan or 2 for the warm winter months but what about the light configuration...is it too much or will this set up work once I've cleaned it up and made it safe?? I appreciate you guys pointing out all my bone head errors but no one seems to give me suggestions or solutions??? thanks again and Supa Japanese Sock Kisser...I am glad you are teaching your kids good manners...I am sure you were an A.D.H.D. freakish kid. probably a pyro and torturing little animals looking at your porn stash all day long...why don't you go drive you fake fast cars you have on your computer from all those wasted hours of gran turismo 3...talking as if you know anything from playing a stupid video game...i bet you are a 12 year old without a driver's license Link to comment
Spencerx Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 d00d chill out, i think that supa was just trying to help you out. i dont think he meant to offend you with the rice rocket comment. people are just trying to help you out, but you are either taking things the wrong way or way overly sensitive. no need for the name calling and what not. JMO..... Link to comment
Christopher Marks Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 fwiw, that melted tank was using a single 32w CSL smartlite retro. No water resistant endcap, and screw cap wiring. I'd hate to hear that your hood caught on fire. As long as you make a splash guard and sauder/wrap the wire connections you should be ok. I feel like you could get better results with a metal halide though, for the things you want to keep. PetSupplyLiquidator could probably make a nice 70w or 150w hood to sit ontop of the eclipse tank to replace the existing hood. Link to comment
cjm033 Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I am sure you were an A.D.H.D. you need to watch wtf your saying and adhd isnt something that you can just say to make fun of ppl. i have it so next time you wanna post somthing like a retard think you f****** retard. and you wanna know the truth your a total jackass for tryn to fit all the crap in the hood and you should have thought it through which it is pretty logical you didnt or elese you wouldnt have been stupid enough to put all that crap in the hood when none of it is water or salt proof. sit down shut up and if you dont like it leave,Chris Link to comment
dYnO Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Dood you guys, to tell you the truth....I personally don't consider anything bigger then a 8 gallon to be a nano! For got sakes I have a .5 (1/2) gallon tank....It's not much but its a nano... Link to comment
Acoustic Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol ! Link to comment
82SC Posted May 12, 2003 Author Share Posted May 12, 2003 CJM You F****** need to watch what you say ass wipe... CJM: "retard think you f****** retard" I am a retard...and it is really offensive when people call me a retard on a anonymoys BBS...I would have thought your mom would have taught you better then that!!! I think you should be careful what you say because there are alot of us retards out there...and it just aint polite to call us for what we are...I am saying this for all the retards who don't have a voice on this nano BBS And so what if I didn't think it through...its cuz I am a retard...so cut me some slack...that is why I posted this thread to ask the opinions of less retarded folk...since I cut you slack for your horrible spelling skills and atrocious grammer and syntax, cut me some slack on my retarded nano skills... anyone have anything constructive??? I will post results when I do make the improvements...I am still curious if the 4 light set up is SO inefficient that I should just cut it back to 2... good thing SupaJSK is no where to be seen...he must have ran off to take his ritalin... Link to comment
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