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I was looking though some plans of the Carlson Surge Device and was thinking about using it on my next tank uprgrade. Do you think that it can be used in conjuction with a sump though? It seems as though on a larger tank you would need a very large overflow box to be able to accomodate the surge. The sump would probebly overflow also unless the sump return can pump the extra water back into the tank faster than surge rate.

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the above surge tank would become ur "sump." and the display tank (on bottom) would house the return pump. I would advise against adding a below tank sump to the set-up since that would complicate the water level and loop between the display and above tank surge sump. not saying it's impossible, but it would get pretty tricky.

 

you could solve the problem by adding an internal overflow box to the main display, but you wouldn't have water constantly flowing over the overflow box (when the tank is at "low tide").

 

do a search on RC for CSD or Carlson to get a better idea about how all this works.

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oh, ok. Didnt think of that X) . It would also solve your problem of having a pump chop up pods if you could incorporate a refugium.

 

How are you managing top off? Manual, float switch, etc.?

 

edit: I was actually looking at diagram but i just didnt put two and two together, lol.

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i came up w/ a top-off set-up w/ float switch, but considering how little space I have to work w/ in the right side chamber, I might have to nix it and just do manual. we'll see if I can make it work tho.

 

Looks sweet tigah,i was going to try a CSD on my first design and then scrapped it for the toilet flusher,my question is how loud is it?

since it's a small tank w/ a smaller amt of flow going thru the surge, the noise is not bad at all. actually kinda reminds me of the ocean. haha.

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Looks damn nice! You apparently set up everything just right, b/c I was worried that with the CSD and the design of the tank, you would have a wall of sand on the left side. I'm guessing the distance/angle of outlet/placement of live rock all work out. I say elevate the lights, and rock a mangrove or two.

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In theory more beneficial for corals and livestock.

I’m not familiar with the theory, what is it? How will you know if your application was successful? I created a similar tank years ago on a FOWLR, on a larger scale though. I was a kid and didn’t think much to test any theories. I was simplistic and only cared about the motion. I’m interested in finding out how yours works out.

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you're not familiar w/ the notion that keeping corals in a more ocean-like setting (random turbulent flow as opposed to a constant stream of flow) could be more beneficial for them?

 

it's "common knowledge" among any reef-related resource - do a search on wetwebmedia.com. it's the very reason why ppl spend thousands creating devices like oceanmotions and SCWD's. It's this principle that Calfo had in mind when designing his manifold loop.

 

i'm not saying it's necessarily correct or absolutely necessary in order to keep corals healthy, but my goal for this pico was to create random turbulent flow and create more wave-like circulation.

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the thory is to recreate the natural motion of the ocean...think about it, the ocean has waves or surges....a surge system copies this. animals and plants are proven to live longer and be more healthy if put in an environment that closely mimics nature.

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Mimicking all aspects of nature is retarded and in no way beneficial.

 

It's a proven fact that corals benefit more from random flow rather than constant laminar flow, period.

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That's one aspect of nature.

 

Add in random events like hurricanes, introduce predatory animals into your tank, and don't add fish/corals/live rock from different oceans. Then you can claim that you're getting closer to nature.

 

But, we obviously don't do that; proving that mimicking every aspect of nature isn't always that beneficial.

 

And while I don't dispute that some aspects of nature are beneficial, such as random flow patterns, the point of a reef tank or any other captive setting is to keep the inhabitants in a controlled environment to better suit their needs.

 

Knowing this, claiming that emulating nature will lead to healthy, hardier corals is a false statement.

 

Last time I checked, the sun wasn't set at a 20,000k spectrum.

 

Also, creating "laminar" flow in a reef tank would be fairly difficult.

 

:flower:

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anyway if anyone wants to further discuss this go to teh general thread...we keep forgetting this is a contest thread, everyone keep your nonsens comments to yourself, myself included...lookin good tigah, come visit yoshi and bring me corals

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