Get it together man!

[MikeTR]

Was expecting snail mail today... my replacement order from reefcleaners. Instead, I got another pink slip. :rant: :rant:

 

Twice I have requested no signature confirmation. Twice I've got affirmation. Maloney!! you need to revamp your order processing. This time I'm gettin my money back.

[johnmaloney]

Pick it up tomorrow and let me know how it goes. You will see the notes to leave it by the door there on the label. Unfortunately it is always with the discretion of the post office employee to keep boxes, you will either want to be home when receiving shipments o hold off until you can make arrangements for them. Here is our guide to receiving shipments that may have some helpful tips in dealing with stickler carriers:

 

http://www.reefcleaners.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117&Itemid=282

[MikeTR]

Our community has a lockbox made specifically for large packages so they should have just left it in there provided there was no signature required.

[LarryMoeCurly]

 

Just think, in a couple years thats what your healthcare is going to be like...

 

USPS is an agency of the government, the facilities are government owned, the workers are employed by the government. This is in no way similar to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They originally wanted a governement run health plan, but the "public option" didn't last long. Obamacare does not institute government-run healthcare (besides Medicaid expansion in some states). Thus it is a facilitator not a provider. The insurance companies, doctors, facilities, hosptials, etc. are not owned or operated by the government (with the exeption of the VA, which is the only socialized medicine in this country).

 

I am not trying to start an arguement, this is not the place for that; I just wanted to point out that your statement makes no logical sense. I do not agree in totality with the legislation, there are valid arguements against it. However, ignorant people who continue to perpetuate nonsense are not helping the issue in the least.

[grmoore]

USPS is very unreliable.

 

 

Just think, in a couple years thats what your healthcare is going to be like...

It's already like that.. imagine how much worse it will be.

 

On topic, I'm sure John will help you sort the shipment out.

[LarryMoeCurly]

Are you writing that I am ignorant?

With regard to the healthcare legislation and based soley on your post, yes. However, I know you to be vastly knowledgeable in other areas.

[TwiceBanned]

USPS is very unreliable.Just think, in a couple years thats what your healthcare is going to be like...

Are you writing that I am ignorant?

1st quote: Not if you're covered under a Taft-Hartley plan, like me. 2nd quote: On the subject of the ACA, you proved that with your statement.

 

Why would you write that the VA is the only socialized healthcare in the US? If you were knowledgable on the subject, you know that's untrue.My post was not enough for you to form an accurate opinion of what my knowledge level is. It was only a bumper sticker.

Nothing about the ACA is socialized healthcare, in fact without the rights many many changes to the law it wouldn't be so convoluted.

[LarryMoeCurly]

Why would you write that the VA is the only socialized healthcare in the US? If you were knowledgable on the subject, you know that's untrue.

Are you saying that the VA is not socialized healthcare, or that it is not the only socialized healthcare?

It is socialized healthcare. The doctors, nurses, administration, etc. are government employees and the facilities and institutions are government-owned.

It can be argued that it is not the only socialized medicine if you take into account the medical divisions of the armed forces.

 

My post was not enough for you to form an accurate opinion of what my knowledge level is. It was only a bumper sticker.

 

Ignorance is prevalent on bumper stickers.

[TwiceBanned]

 

 

 

Ignorance is prevalent on bumper stickers.

 

I ran out of room on my bumper so I started in on my rear glass.

[Lawnman]

I love Obama and Obama healthcare! I voted for him FTW.....

[TwiceBanned]

I love Obama and Obama healthcare! I voted for him FTW.....

 

Well, he did win, twice.

Not sure if serious or baiting.

[metrokat]

 

John. You need to step up and fix the healthcare crises.

[Lawnman]

Well, he did win, twice.

Not sure if serious or baiting.

100% serious!

[GHill762]

1st quote: Not if you're covered under a Taft-Hartley plan, like me. 2nd quote: On the subject of the ACA, you proved that with your statement. Nothing about the ACA is socialized healthcare, in fact without the rights many many changes to the law it wouldn't be so convoluted.

the subsidies make it socialist.

 

Aca will bankrupt private insurance and likely the entire healthcare industry.. My whole family works in healthcare so we are seeing the changes first hand, the vast majority of which are going to be very bad long term..

[LarryMoeCurly]

the subsidies make it socialist.

That is broad definition of socailism. Many parts of the private sector get subsidies from the government, including farming, oil producers, and quite possibly your family's education.

 

 

Aca will bankrupt private insurance and likely the entire healthcare industry.. My whole family works in healthcare so we are seeing the changes first hand, the vast majority of which are going to be very bad long term..

 

That is quite a dramatic assertion. If there were facts to back that up we would be in real trouble. Insurance companies make plenty of money and will continue to do so. Actually profits are projected to increase under Obamacare. Millions more mandated to enroll in an insurance plan equals millions more in profits. It appears insurance companies will do pretty well.

[evanski]

That is broad definition of socailism. Many parts of the private sector get subsidies from the government, including farming, oil producers, and quite possibly your family's education.

 

No, forcing (one way or another, don't quibble) my insurance carrier to cancel my policy, then renewing through ACA provisions (many things I neither want nor need) at almost triple the price. Apparently much of the extra cost is so I can pay for others health care. Pick nits if you like, but the socialism tag is gonna be hard to shed.

 

And the original premise, i.e. that the government is going to poke its nose into another industry and #### it up with its typical lack of efficiency is not off base. Mass cancellations, MONSTER increases in costs is just the part we know about. There are some positives in terms of wider coverage, but wrecking the economy is what it is.

[MikeTR]

this thread..

 

ok so i went this morning and picked up my package from the post office.. SIGNED for it. My coris wrasse is currently depositing snails all over my tank so I shall never know how many lived or not. The only bag that kinda smelled was the dwarf ceriths so I spent some extra time rinsing them in tank water. I've spent waaaaaaaay more time dealing with snails than I ever cared to. Overall I probably got more that will live for a cheaper price than if I went to the LFS. I'll be back maloney, provided you can work out a better shipping method.

 

USPS is not unreliable, the sticker says SIGNATURE TRACKING with a barcoded label. They did what they are supposed to do. Doesn't matter what the rest of the label says.

[patback]

this thread..

 

ok so i went this morning and picked up my package from the post office.. SIGNED for it. My coris wrasse is currently depositing snails all over my tank so I shall never know how many lived or not. The only bag that kinda smelled was the dwarf ceriths so I spent some extra time rinsing them in tank water. I've spent waaaaaaaay more time dealing with snails than I ever cared to. Overall I probably got more that will live for a cheaper price than if I went to the LFS. I'll be back maloney, provided you can work out a better shipping method.

 

USPS is not unreliable, the sticker says SIGNATURE TRACKING with a barcoded label. They did what they are supposed to do. Doesn't matter what the rest of the label says.

USPS can at times be very unreliable. 3 times, they "forgot" 3 seperate packages (or were to lazy to walk to the door since they usually stuff small enough boxes in the mailbox, which is a no-no). And sure enough, they slapped a sticker saying a signature was required. Last time I checked, there is someone at my house 24/7 in the living room and the couch is 5 feet from the 8' wide window. Nobody attempted to drop off the boxes that weren't originally "signature requested"

[MikeTR]

Sorry you got a lazy ass mailman .. but this is what our big mailbox is for, holds a 15x15x15 box. It would have taken extra effort on his part to visit my house which is a block away from the common mail area.

[TwiceBanned]

the subsidies make it socialist.

 

 

Really? I gotten tax "subsidies" for years on my returns based on what I spent for healthcare for my family.

 

 

[GHill762]

That is broad definition of socailism. Many parts of the private sector get subsidies from the government, including farming, oil producers, and quite possibly your family's education. That is quite a dramatic assertion. If there were facts to back that up we would be in real trouble. Insurance companies make plenty of money and will continue to do so. Actually profits are projected to increase under Obamacare. Millions more mandated to enroll in an insurance plan equals millions more in profits. https://www.google.com/search?q=health+insurance+profit+under+obamacare&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb'>It appears insurance companies will do pretty well.

No, forcing (one way or another, don't quibble) my insurance carrier to cancel my policy, then renewing through ACA provisions (many things I neither want nor need) at almost triple the price. Apparently much of the extra cost is so I can pay for others health care. Pick nits if you like, but the socialism tag is gonna be hard to shed. And the original premise, i.e. that the government is going to poke its nose into another industry and #### it up with its typical lack of efficiency is not off base. Mass cancellations, MONSTER increases in costs is just the part we know about. There are some positives in terms of wider coverage, but wrecking the economy is what it is.

just like forcing banks to make bad loans was a good idea

 

That is broad definition of socailism. Many parts of the private sector get subsidies from the government, including farming, oil producers, and quite possibly your family's education. That is quite a dramatic assertion. If there were facts to back that up we would be in real trouble. Insurance companies make plenty of money and will continue to do so. Actually profits are projected to increase under Obamacare. Millions more mandated to enroll in an insurance plan equals millions more in profits. https://www.google.com/search?q=health+insurance+profit+under+obamacare&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb'>It appears insurance companies will do pretty well.

I'm telling you, coming from some high ups in a major insurance company that this is not going to be good for insurance companies. I'm not going to argue with you though, we'll just see where we're at in 5 years.

[Rollermonkey]

Having lived in both Italy and Japan, I would GLADLY welcome a change to the US health care system away from the insane for-profit model we have now. The US is virtually the only developed nation in the world that thinks that making more and more money of the sickest people is the right way to run things.

 

My wife would fly to Japan in a heartbeat if she ever needed advanced medical care, and frankly I don't blame her. She can resume her national insurance at any time, it costs like $10 a month and there are very few costs beyond the premiums. My daughter even had a well baby check during a visit to the in-laws, and it was completely free, too. We pay a $12 copay for that here, on top of the admittedly very affordable $2200 annual premium.

 

 

Since I'm a Navy retiree, I have both the VA and private insurance (Tricare). Stuff I get through the VA is always 100% free to me. Stuff I get through my insurance (which had no changes when ACA standards were implemented) sometimes costs me an arm and a leg for certain things, like CPAP supplies. Guess which plan I like better.

 

Oh, and snails. The cerith bag is always the stinky one.

[TwiceBanned]

Having lived in both Italy and Japan, I would GLADLY welcome a change to the US health care system away from the insane for-profit model we have now. The US is virtually the only developed nation in the world that thinks that making more and more money of the sickest people is the right way to run things.

 

My wife would fly to Japan in a heartbeat if she ever needed advanced medical care, and frankly I don't blame her. She can resume her national insurance at any time, it costs like $10 a month and there are very few costs beyond the premiums. My daughter even had a well baby check during a visit to the in-laws, and it was completely free, too. We pay a $12 copay for that here, on top of the admittedly very affordable $2200 annual premium.

 

 

Since I'm a Navy retiree, I have both the VA and private insurance (Tricare). Stuff I get through the VA is always 100% free to me. Stuff I get through my insurance (which had no changes when ACA standards were implemented) sometimes costs me an arm and a leg for certain things, like CPAP supplies. Guess which plan I like better.

 

Oh, and snails. The cerith bag is always the stinky one.

 

 

Thank you for you service. If only more people had an international POV, instead of the rush/hannity brainwashing. My father, as well as my grandfather were both very well taken care of in their later years by our "socialist VA". Your viewpoint is well appreciated.

[Lawnman]

Having lived in both Italy and Japan, I would GLADLY welcome a change to the US health care system away from the insane for-profit model we have now. The US is virtually the only developed nation in the world that thinks that making more and more money of the sickest people is the right way to run things.

 

My wife would fly to Japan in a heartbeat if she ever needed advanced medical care, and frankly I don't blame her. She can resume her national insurance at any time, it costs like $10 a month and there are very few costs beyond the premiums. My daughter even had a well baby check during a visit to the in-laws, and it was completely free, too. We pay a $12 copay for that here, on top of the admittedly very affordable $2200 annual premium.

 

 

Since I'm a Navy retiree, I have both the VA and private insurance (Tricare). Stuff I get through the VA is always 100% free to me. Stuff I get through my insurance (which had no changes when ACA standards were implemented) sometimes costs me an arm and a leg for certain things, like CPAP supplies. Guess which plan I like better.

 

Oh, and snails. The cerith bag is always the stinky one.

Amen brotha! Wife and I are self employeed and spend 10K a year for insurance. It's basically a damn 10K discount card.

[Rollermonkey]

Oh, and if we're talking subsidies, how's this?

 

 

Navy Pension: $1373 after taxes, dental and life insurance premiums

VA Disability: $1745 (non-taxable)

VA vocational rehabilitation benefits: 100% of tuition and fees, plus all required books, plus $1671 monthly housing stipend (all non-taxable, started in September, I paid for my Freshman year out-of-pocket)

Financial aid: @$3400 per quarter, combined state and federal programs (non-taxable)

 

So in all, I got north of $50k last year, either for going to college or because I was in the military.

 

My tax refund was over $5k.

 

I'll be honest, it seems almost criminal to me, but they keep throwing more money in my direction. Most of it will only last thirty-six months, but still. While it's nice that I don't have to take any student loans, it still feels kind of wrong.