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Small refugium nitrate consumption


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I wanted to show just how effective running a small macroalgae refugium in my set up.

 

Tank: Fluval Evo AIO 13.5g total

Chamber 2 is filled with a mix of 1/3 chaeto and 2/3 red gracilaria 

 

Light: cheap 12w LED grow light attached directly to the glass. 

Lighting period: 11pm-7am


Test Kit: API Nitrate test

 

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March 22 - Approx 30-40 ppm

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March 23 - approx 10 ppm

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FTS

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1 hour ago, DevilDuck said:

I wanted to show just how effective running a small macroalgae refugium in my set up.

 

Tank: Fluval Evo AIO 13.5g total

Chamber 2 is filled with a mix of 1/3 chaeto and 2/3 red gracilaria 

 

Light: cheap 12w LED grow light attached directly to the glass. 

Lighting period: 11pm-7am


Test Kit: API Nitrate test

 

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March 22 - Approx 30-40 ppm

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March 23 - approx 10 ppm

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FTS

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Sooo, if it drove N down that much in one day - what r u gonna do when N runs out?    

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2 hours ago, mitten_reef said:

Sooo, if it drove N down that much in one day - what r u gonna do when N runs out?    

I can dose N back up with stump remover for the short term, but this is not something I want to keep dosing.

 

Next steps:

 

1. Reduce lighting period to 4 hours and dose nitrate back up to 10 ppm and see where we are the next day.

2. If it still low then, I will remove the chaeto leaving the slower growing red gracilaria, dose back up to 10 ppm and measure the consumption over 24 hours

3. If none of those work, just shutdown refugium since my corals and display tank macros uptake enough. I'll probably replace the refugium macroalgae with some biomedia or rock rubble to house copepods.

 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, JustReading said:

Mine ran out....I did the non conventional stup remover

 

Added way too much so don't do what I did 

Here's my calculation from http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/calculator.htm

 

Fluval Evo total volume is about 13g

1 cup of RODI = 236.6 ml

 

I mix 2 tablespoons of stump remover to 1 cup of RODI water

 

Gives me a solution that will raise about 2 ppm of nitrate per 1 ml dose into 13 g of water.

 

I find that there is a 1 day delay from when you dose to when the nitrate shows up on the API test.

 

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See I did a cup of tank water. Mixed one glass of tank water, added a TSP then dumped the whole thing back in. I had so much Nitrate it was insane. I'm obviously not good at this.  I should just copy you a week later after you figure it out 

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52 minutes ago, JustReading said:

See I did a cup of tank water. Mixed one glass of tank water, added a TSP then dumped the whole thing back in. I had so much Nitrate it was insane. I'm obviously not good at this.  I should just copy you a week later after you figure it out 

 

By the calculator, that would have increased your nitrate by 75 ppm!

I would just do the 2 tablespoons to 1 cup mix. It's easy to remember and dosing is also easy at 1 ml = 2 ppm.

 

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Refugium Experiment Part 2

 

Dosed nitrate back up to  about 10 ppm

 

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Removed all chaeto from the refugium and placed it into a container on my windowsill, leaving only the red gracilaria.

 

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Lighting period: 11pm-7am

 

 

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Today's update

Yesterday's results on the left, today's results on the right. There's a much smaller decrease. Maybe 5 ppm.

 

I realize I should have started with a control run. Need to wait a few days until the nitrate is back down to undetectable levels. Next, I will dose nitrates it back up to 10 ppm, remove all macroalgae from the refugium and unplug the light. This should give a baseline for the display tank consumption. 

 

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Have some time this weekend to continue this little experiment. I'll be doing a control run with no macroalgae. This will give me an idea of the natural nitrate consumption of the tank and the impact of removing the macroalgae refugium.

 

Dosed nitrate up to 10 ppm using Spectrum Tree Stump Remover

Dosed phosphates to 0.06 ppm using Brightwell NeoPhos

 

Macroalgae has been removed from the system and placed in a container on my windowsill.

Pulled the power cord out of the refugium light. Interestingly, the filter chamber has been completely colonized by pineapple sponges. There are several large ones on the return pump!

 

I will re-test on Monday and post the results.

 

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