RoyalGramma001 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Hi everyone, i just got a new torch and it has a large part of the skeleton exposed and it looks like it may be splitting or possibly damaged. Also one tentacle has a fuzzy thing hanging off might be hair and lint or dust. I can get a picture in the morning when the whites are on if needed. thank you. Quote Link to comment
paulsz Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Please post a pic tomorrow! How old is your tank? What are the water parameters (alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, nitrate, phosphate?) We need details of the tank before anything Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 hours ago, paulsz said: Please post a pic tomorrow! How old is your tank? What are the water parameters (alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, nitrate, phosphate?) We need details of the tank before anything It is almost a year old and everything was perfect for parameters I just got him like literally last night so it still could be adjusting Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Here's the pics of the torch looks pretty good I guess Quote Link to comment
paulsz Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 yeah it's adjusting, I think. 3 hours ago, RoyalGramma001 said: everything was perfect for parameters what do you mean by perfect? Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Just now, paulsz said: yeah it's adjusting, I think. what do you mean by perfect? I tested it at my lfs yesterday and everything was where it should be Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 What does "perfect" mean? Never take their answer of "fine", get the exact numbers for yourself. Coral looks fine. Torches have a lot of skeleton that's just always exposed. 1 Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Tired said: What does "perfect" mean? Never take their answer of "fine", get the exact numbers for yourself. Coral looks fine. Torches have a lot of skeleton that's just always exposed. My nitrates were crazy high so that's probably why. I did a change today and I'm doing one tomorrow. Hopefully I can get my réfugiâmes set up soon to eliminate nitrates. Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Don't eliminate nitrates, your corals will starve. Keep a bare minimum of 5ppm nitrates and about 0.05 phosphates. 10+ppm nitrates is better for many corals, especially soft corals. The torch in that picture looks like a torch coral that's been recently disturbed, not like anything is wrong with the water. Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tired said: Don't eliminate nitrates, your corals will starve. Keep a bare minimum of 5ppm nitrates and about 0.05 phosphates. 10+ppm nitrates is better for many corals, especially soft corals. The torch in that picture looks like a torch coral that's been recently disturbed, not like anything is wrong with the water. Yeah I just got him so it's probably a little upset. Will a refugium for my tank eliminate to many nitrates or will it be ok? Also my nitrates were about 80 ppm so I'm doing crazy water changes. Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 What the refugium does to your nitrates will depend entirely on what's in the refugium, compared to how much you feed and how much the things in your tank use up. There's no way to tell. The only thing you can do is watch your nitrates after the refugium is added and adjust things accordingly. Which means you should buy nitrate and phosphate tests (good ones, not dip strips) so you can monitor it at home. How much are you feeding, in how big of a tank, and what's your water change schedule like that the nitrates got so high? Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tired said: What the refugium does to your nitrates will depend entirely on what's in the refugium, compared to how much you feed and how much the things in your tank use up. There's no way to tell. The only thing you can do is watch your nitrates after the refugium is added and adjust things accordingly. Which means you should buy nitrate and phosphate tests (good ones, not dip strips) so you can monitor it at home. How much are you feeding, in how big of a tank, and what's your water change schedule like that the nitrates got so high? I have a 20 gallon I feed everyday with some pellets and every other day I feed mysis shrimp and I do a water change every week. I will buy a salifert Nitrate and phosphate test. Also what should I do when I buy the refugium and it negatively affects the nitrates and phosphates to be too low? Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 How many fish do you have, and how much of each food are you giving them? Are you feeding some of it to the corals? A refugium is just an empty container attached to your tank in some way. You're meant to put things into that container, usually macroalgae, to provide hiding places for microfauna and to remove nitrates and phosphates. If your macroalgae in your refugium is removing too much of the nutrients, just take out most of the macroalgae so you only have a little bit. Quote Link to comment
farkwar Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Is this year old rock With 80 nitrates? Not once in my life have I ever heard scrubbing a montipora with a toothbrush for anything, let alone for nudis Something is off here Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 14 hours ago, farkwar said: Is this year old rock With 80 nitrates? Not once in my life have I ever heard scrubbing a montipora with a toothbrush for anything, let alone for nudis Something is off here Idk I was trying to help by looking it up I supposed it meant the frag or dead underside or it was bad advice that was my fault I should have researched a little more before posting. The rest of the rock is a year old but the one in the picture is a new rock I got a couple of weeks ago. 15 hours ago, Tired said: How many fish do you have, and how much of each food are you giving them? Are you feeding some of it to the corals? A refugium is just an empty container attached to your tank in some way. You're meant to put things into that container, usually macroalgae, to provide hiding places for microfauna and to remove nitrates and phosphates. If your macroalgae in your refugium is removing too much of the nutrients, just take out most of the macroalgae so you only have a little bit. Ok thank you I was not clear on what a refugium was I guess 1 Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 What is your water change schedule like, how many fish do you have, and how much are you feeding? 80 nitrates is pretty high. It would be good to figure out why it got that high. Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tired said: What is your water change schedule like, how many fish do you have, and how much are you feeding? 80 nitrates is pretty high. It would be good to figure out why it got that high. I change once a week. I have 2 fish. And I feed them once a day with pellets until they start to slow down and every other day I feed half a cube of mysis. I might be feeding two many pellets. Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 That does sound like it might be too much. It's also possible there's been some buildup. You should do large water changes every few days until you have your nitrates down to 5-10ppm, then see how long it takes to rise by about 10ppm more. Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Also looks like you have a clownfish that grows to a larger size. Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Yeah I have a tomato clown 14 hours ago, Tamberav said: Also looks like you have a clownfish that grows to a larger size. Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Oh, yeah, those get a bit big for a 20gal. Quote Link to comment
RoyalGramma001 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Tired said: Oh, yeah, those get a bit big for a 20gal. Yeah getting a 55 set up at some point still small Quote Link to comment
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