Ferrari_Jones Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I set my tank up four days ago with Live sand packaged last month (Arag-Alive) and used RO/DI water with instant ocean. I let that run over night in my tank, and then added live rock the following morning, within 15 minutes of purchasing it from the LFS. The rock had a hermit and later a starfish on it, both of whom I figured would have to be dead this morning. To my surprise they are both doing quite well. I had a diatom bloom yesterday, very small though, and the hermit has been chugging away at it all by his lonesome. Is this just the calm before the storm, or did I just luck out by using a few month old cured rock right from the tank? Link to comment
joshnanoreef Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I set my tank up four days ago with Live sand packaged last month (Arag-Alive) and used RO/DI water with instant ocean. I let that run over night in my tank, and then added live rock the following morning, within 15 minutes of purchasing it from the LFS. The rock had a hermit and later a starfish on it, both of whom I figured would have to be dead this morning. To my surprise they are both doing quite well. I had a diatom bloom yesterday, very small though, and the hermit has been chugging away at it all by his lonesome. Is this just the calm before the storm, or did I just luck out by using a few month old cured rock right from the tank? You need to be patient. sometimes it takes a while to begin the cycle... wait a few weeks. :-) Link to comment
keydiver Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 throw some kind of small dead animal in there. If the cycle hasnt started yet, thatll kick start it Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 This isn't really luck. Curing is the same thing as cycling except in a different location. The cycle itself is an example of such significant stress (i.e. being transported out of water for many hours/days) that the bacteria on the rock/sand can't handle the ammonia being produced, leading to the noticeable ammonia (and later nitrite/nitrate) levels. 0 ppm on a test doesn't mean there is no ammonia is in the tank; it means the ammonia is being removed as fast as it is being produced. Also, it's a really bad idea to add anything dead to your tank. You do not need a cycle to have a successful tank. The ammonia spike from a "cycle" is not normal, which is why you can't have fish/corals during that time. Besides, that amount of ammonia will not be constantly produced in the long-term, leading to a boom and then bust in bacteria populations. This is why you paid money for cured rock from a LFS. "recycling" cured rock is a waste of time, money (you could have bought cheaper uncured rock), and potentially lives of your animals (like the hermit). Link to comment
Ferrari_Jones Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 This isn't really luck. Curing is the same thing as cycling except in a different location. The cycle itself is an example of such significant stress (i.e. being transported out of water for many hours/days) that the bacteria on the rock/sand can't handle the ammonia being produced, leading to the noticeable ammonia (and later nitrite/nitrate) levels. 0 ppm on a test doesn't mean there is no ammonia is in the tank; it means the ammonia is being removed as fast as it is being produced. Also, it's a really bad idea to add anything dead to your tank. You do not need a cycle to have a successful tank. The ammonia spike from a "cycle" is not normal, which is why you can't have fish/corals during that time. Besides, that amount of ammonia will not be constantly produced in the long-term, leading to a boom and then bust in bacteria populations. This is why you paid money for cured rock from a LFS. "recycling" cured rock is a waste of time, money (you could have bought cheaper uncured rock), and potentially lives of your animals (like the hermit). I've been doing research for weeks and based on that, I would never use a carcass to kick start cycling if I needed to, I would just drop in ammonia. I guess my real question is, did I basically buy a cycled tank? I am in no real hurry to add livestock other than a CUC to the tank, as my poor little Hermit can only do so much on his own, and I'm starting to get a slight algae problem. Link to comment
mginster Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 If you test RODI water you will also have perfect parameters, and since your tank is 4 days old it hasn't even had time to start any kind of cycle, meaning it may still test like plain water. The reason its called a cycle is because values go up and go down. Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate should have gone up at some time for it to be considered a Cycle. If you were testing frequently and did not notice this, it hasnt occured yet. Link to comment
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