molo Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Does anybody know what are the adverse affects of having high salinity (1.030 and above)? Link to comment
Rockfish Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Does anybody know what are the adverse affects of having high salinity (1.030 and above)? in a word.....most things will die....zoas melt, SPS shed and die, and fish will not live any other questions?? Link to comment
clownfish14 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 lol you hit it right on the head Link to comment
molo Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 The reason I ask is because I been running my tanks at 1.030 for months. I have two hydrometer that gave me a reading 1.025, which I thought was correct. It wasn't till today that I bought a refractometer that I found out my real salinity. I haven't lost any coral or fish. Link to comment
Rockfish Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 then obviously the refractometer is VERY wrong.... did you calibrate it?? are you reading it right? i'm guessing your salinity is NOT at 1.030 or else you would have lost damn near everything in the tank Link to comment
molo Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 I calibrated twice with distilled water. I'm in the process of purchasing calibrating solution to verify the results. Link to comment
jjjo Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 then obviously the refractometer is VERY wrong.... did you calibrate it?? are you reading it right? i'm guessing your salinity is NOT at 1.030 or else you would have lost damn near everything in the tank Um... I've had my tanks up that high. No ill effects. If the salinity gradually got up to 1.030, and the inhabitants of the tank are acclimated to it, then they should be fine. New additions however would suffer badly. that said, I would slowly bring it down .001 per day until its around 1.026-1.027. (I keep my corals around 1.027) also, I agree. Make sure you calibrate the refractometer. It could be WAY off if not calibrated correctly. in conclusion, I find lower SG (1.021 or lower) has far worse long term effects on corals, than higher SG (1.028-1.031ish) -dan Link to comment
Rem Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 +1 to what Jjjo said.. your livestock acclimated to that high of a salinity if your refractometer is reading correctly. A drastic change is when you have problems. Link to comment
reog3 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I just bought a refractometer and checked my water and find it at 1.022. I just brought home water from the lfs and checked it to be the same at 1.022. I recalibrated to make sure and read again with the same readings. How do I get up to 1.025 safely? Bob Link to comment
nick1912 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 You should mix some freshwater with salt at a higher salinty and then do a small wc with the new salt water. I just bought a refractometer and checked my water and find it at 1.022. I just brought home water from the lfs and checked it to be the same at 1.022. I recalibrated to make sure and read again with the same readings. How do I get up to 1.025 safely? Bob Link to comment
reog3 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 You should mix some freshwater with salt at a higher salinty and then do a small wc with the new salt water. Is there a way to figure out how much salt to add to the five gallons of 1.022 water I get from the lfs? Rule of thumb or something along those lines? If I can add to the new water it will make the wife much happier that I dont have to use more of the apartment for fish and their gear<g> Bob Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Your best bet is just to add salt in small increments to the desired specific gravity and use the same amount every time. IMO, this is a good reason to buy only freshwater and mix up your own saltwater; it can't be any more of a chore than having to add extra salt to "premixed" water. Link to comment
reog3 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Your best bet is just to add salt in small increments to the desired specific gravity and use the same amount every time. IMO, this is a good reason to buy only freshwater and mix up your own saltwater; it can't be any more of a chore than having to add extra salt to "premixed" water. Thank you and that does make sense. What would you consider a small amount to start with? I just dont want to blast it and go high and have to lower. I guess it would be easy to move up slowly after I see what difference it makes. Thanks Bob Link to comment
Asureef Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I calibrated twice with distilled water. I'm in the process of purchasing calibrating solution to verify the results. You need to calibrate with calibrating solution to 35ppt (1.026). Do not use distilled/RO water, as your reading will be inaccurate. Link to comment
EliPhant Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I also bought calibration fluid and set my refractometer to 1.026. After doing that, my R/O water reads at 0. I don't think all r/o water will be "inaccurate". Link to comment
coolwaters Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 iv seen SG up to 1.032 and everything is find. but 1.026 is ideal. mainly cuz u dont have to acclimated them as long. also this raises a lot of other things like Ca, ALK, mag. Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Try adding 1/4 cup increments. Also, the other, more time-intensive, option is to let the saltwater evaporate. Link to comment
jjjo Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I also bought calibration fluid and set my refractometer to 1.026. After doing that, my R/O water reads at 0. I don't think all r/o water will be "inaccurate". you want it set at 35PPT.... not 1.026 fwiw Try adding 1/4 cup increments. Also, the other, more time-intensive, option is to let the saltwater evaporate. indeed. to raise SG.. let saltwater evaporate, and top off with saltwater until you reach desired SG. To reduce SG take a bit of saltwater out, and add RO in its place, in .0005-.001 increments per day until you reach desired levels. Link to comment
sandcruiser Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 what jjo said: just use salt water mixed at the desired salinity instead of freshwater to top-off the tank it won't take long until you start seeing an increase in salt because only fresh water evaporates. When you add salt to replace it, you end up with saltier and saltier water. Link to comment
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