C Jerome Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 I just purchased a, i think it is called lettuce leather, at my LFS this past weekend and i am wondering how much light it can take, also do this 'come out' like other corals, the first day it was in my tank after a while it was covered about 50-60% with little things sticking out of it, it has not done this since Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 So... Seven of you have looked at this and no one has any experience or insight for me? Please let me know I was looking more at it and I see part of it looks waxie Thanks C. Jerome Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Many leathers go through this. If maintained helathy it will most likely do it once a month. Its sort of like a shrimp molting. It is getting rid of its outside layer and building a newer one. Its outside layer is waxy and slimy. Its best if you see excess waxy and slimy material hanging off it to take that excess stuff out of your tank. Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 6, 2002 Author Share Posted May 6, 2002 Should i pull he stuff that is hanging off it off with tweezers? or just let it come off by its self and be sucked up by the filter? Thanks C. Jerome Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 It may not fully ever come off. I suggest pu;lling most of it off with tweezers but dont force anything off...as in, dont rip anything off the coral if it refuses to budge... Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 6, 2002 Author Share Posted May 6, 2002 I got home from school today and came up to my room to look at it and just about all of the waxie stuff is off except near the very edge/underside. And it has come out, it has lots of little post like things sticking out of it, thats is as far as they come right? Thanks C. Jerome Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Well those post thingys you speak of are actually polyps coming from your leather. Im pretty sure by the post thingys...your leather is not a lettuce. Its a toadstool. It depends how far those things come out...if they come out more...the healthier it is really. Take out the excess wazy stuff that you see around its base...it can start to irritate the coral if left there... Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 7, 2002 Author Share Posted May 7, 2002 I thought it said lettuce but It could be a toadstool, i will try to post a picture soon. Do the polyps 'open' or is that it? Thanks C. Jerome Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 8, 2002 Author Share Posted May 8, 2002 This is the leather in question also can you tell me any thing about this button and just to show him off here is a pictuer of my mandarin Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Quick question...how old is your tank? And do you have any type of sump/refugium of seom sort....because if you dont...you should have really researched about the mandarin first. Im not trying to scold you or put you down or anything but if its a new tank and your mandarin doesnt except prepared foods...it will die soon Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 9, 2002 Author Share Posted May 9, 2002 I did reasearch all about mandarins first for weeks and decided to get one. I know they eat the copopods from the live rock but they eat other stuff too. I feed mine brine shrimp and it likes them. I put a few in before the lights go out for the other fish and then when the lights go out i put a bunch in for the mandarin to find in the rocks later, i have had him for a few weeks and have seen no ill effects, he is not losing weight, i saw one the my LFS that had been there for three weeks and had that charastic emaciated look, it was so sad. Do you know what type of leather that is? Thanks C. Jerome Link to comment
fish04 Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Crown leather... Man can not live by bread alone ...... niether can mandarins on brine. (Edited by fish04 at 12:48 pm on May 9, 2002) Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 9, 2002 Author Share Posted May 9, 2002 so why can they survive on on copepods only? Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 well brine shrimp is probably the least nutritous food you could feed it. As for copepods...its like eatingfast food everyday...you can live with it but its not healthy. In nature, madarins eat a huge variety of pods and other little things. I feed my 2 mandarins in my 40 mysis shrimp as this is one of the healthiest food fish can eat. My pair loves them...you should always feed a variety of foods. I feed veggie flakes, mysis, brine, and even some bloodworms once and a while. Link to comment
C Jerome Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 i will try some of these shrimp too and some blood worms, I am sure he will like all of them together even more Thanks C. Jerome PS how big are these shrimp and will my lfs have them? Link to comment
fish04 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 How big is your tank? Mandarins should be in nothing less than a reef with 100+ lbs of live rock, and the tank should be well established (over a year old). The reason for this is the mandarin has a varied diet. When I say varied , I mean varied, not just brine one day, and pods the next and a few blood worms here and there. They need native variant. A well established reef MAY have enough micro growth to support a mandrin (for a while). They WILL die if they don't have constant grazing, and a varied diet. This toipic has been beaten to death in this forum, I'm not going to rehash it, but if Pulpsamck sees this he'll be glad to;) ...do a search and read all you want, but bottom line.....get rid of the Mandarin! I really wish distributors would stop selling them, but then again the consumer has to be educated not to buy them....the old premise of supply and demand. If you demand them, they'll supply them...unfortunately! (Edited by fish04 at 2:23 pm on May 10, 2002) Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Hey fish04, I have to say that your wrong about some things dealing with the madarin. First of all they CAN survive if given a good diet for a LONG time (my pair has lived for 3 years in my 40 gal). Its not liek gonipora where no one can keep it alive after 6 months or so. People just have to know and feed them their requirements. Of course we can't feed them their exact diet they get from the reef...we cant give anything in our tank the conditions exactly how it is in the actually ocean (corals, fish) We have to improvise as we do with supplements. Gonipora is a coral that has proven not to accept our supplements but for fish, some mandarin have. If he says his mandarin is eating prepared food. Well he got lucky and if he veries up the diet well enough, his mandarin should live for a long time. If someone is unfortunate and gets a mandarin that wont take any prepared foods well then, they're out of luck and thats wher eyour point comes in. But if his is doing well eating things he feeds it, it will survive. Link to comment
cjm033 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 quicksilver is right you cant base facts on one persons "knowledge" that they got from books. and unless you have experience with at least 2 of the same fish its too hard to tell from that and you cant listen to what CERTIAN people say about certain things sometimes because they havent had enough exp. but from what i know quicksilver is right,Chris:) Link to comment
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