Gomer Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Sorry. Every time I needed data, I digitized it. Link to comment
Hans Dorn Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Heh I just found this Works pretty well. Regards Hans Link to comment
Gomer Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Excitation wavelength / Emission wavelength -- protein name Blue Fluorescent Proteins 383 / 445 -- EBFP 399 / 511 -- Sapphire 399 / 511 -- T-Sapphire Cyan Fluorescent Proteins 439 / 476 -- ECFP 433 / 475 -- mCFP 433 / 475 -- Cerulean 435 / 477 -- CyPet 458 / 489 -- AmCyan1 472 / 495 -- Midori-Ishi Cyan 462 / 492 -- mTFP1 (Teal) Green Fluorescent Proteins 484 / 507 -- EGFP 480 / 505 -- AcGFP 482 / 502 -- TurboGFP 487 / 509 -- Emerald 492 / 505 -- Azami Green 493 / 505 -- ZsGreen Yellow Fluorescent Proteins 514 / 527 -- EYFP 514 / 527 -- Topaz 515 / 528 -- Venus 516 / 529 -- mCitrine 517 / 530 -- YPet 525 / 537 -- PhiYFP 529 / 539 -- ZsYellow1 540 / 553 -- mBanana Orange and Red Fluorescent Proteins 548 / 559 -- Kusabira Orange 548 / 562 -- mOrange 554 / 581 -- dTomato 554 / 581 -- dTomato-Tandem 558 / 583 -- DsRed 563 / 582 -- DsRed2 555 / 584 -- DsRed-Express (T1) 556 / 586 -- DsRed-Monomer 568 / 585 -- mTangerine 574 / 596 -- mStrawberry 576 / 592 -- AsRed2 584 / 607 -- mRFP1 584 / 610 -- JRed 587 / 610 -- mCherry 588 / 618 -- HcRed1 598 / 625 -- mRaspberry 590 / 637 -- HcRed-Tandem 590 / 649 -- mPlum 595 / 655 -- AQ143 Link to comment
strangelove Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 So what's the verdict on which LEDs to get for best viewing spectrum, white, blue, cyan and a little red? Link to comment
coolwaters Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 protein name? lol they look like user names.... dTomato is my user name now XD Link to comment
Gomer Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 So what's the verdict on which LEDs to get for best viewing spectrum, white, blue, cyan and a little red? White is still the best, BUT you need to fill in the inadequacies. If it was me, I would have a tank with 12 white, 4 royal blue, 4 UV (~400-420) 1 green and test out t see how a red works. I have a 6pack 700mA cree already. I am tempted to order those UV emitters and stack 6 of them with my 350mA driver. I wonder if the thermal plug is electrically isolated. I know it isn't on the Luxeon bare emitters. Link to comment
coolwaters Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 thermal plug? u mean the thermal base of the LED? they should be right? i want to test it out too i got 10 white, 4 blue, 1 UV, one RBG. i'll probably use the red just to bring out the red parts of coral. Link to comment
Gomer Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 thermal plug? u mean the thermal base of the LED?they should be right? i want to test it out too i got 10 white, 4 blue, 1 UV, one RBG. i'll probably use the red just to bring out the red parts of coral. Yes the base Take the Luxeons for example. Bare emitters, while not having the positive or negative leads directly died to the base, ARE electrically connected through a type of diode arrangement. This is why in the fine print, luxeon tells you to electrically isolate emitter bases. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Interesting discussion guys. In regards to the red LEDs, I had thought the the somewhat selective emmisions of LEDs, and as a result the lack of red, was of benefit because it won't excite the growth of plant life, and problematic algae. It would be great for a fuge, but could problems arise from having it in a display setting? I guess the problem would be from having too much red saturation, but what levels would be needed to pick out the colors in the corals without getting to a detrimental level? Looks like some experimenting is needed. Link to comment
coolwaters Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 dam i misread that...i thought they said they are electrically isolated... i hope my cree LEDs are....and im kinda skeptical about the Edison LEDs... thats y i was having a hard time wiring my old K2 luxeon leds... i was unsure about the red LEDs too in your display. im going to do 1w just for color Link to comment
Gomer Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 As long as you snip the corners of the cree emitter you'll be fine. Also, any LED mounted to those little boards will be isolated. Not sure about the edison Link to comment
evilc66 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 BTW, thermal pads on the Rebels are electrically isolated, so not all Luxeons are electrically connected to the base Link to comment
NanoReefGuy Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hi CW The Cree LEDs have electically isolated thermal pads so you should not have a problem with them. In their data sheet it say "electically neutral thermal path" Cheers NRG Link to comment
strangelove Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Damn all this is over my head, but I'll try and catchup to your tech lingo. If possible can you use more laymen's terms for people who are just getting into making LED arrays. If there is no easier way of explaining things, oh well, I'll just handicap it. Link to comment
jpndave Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I am looking to add actinics to my tank. I am toying with the thought of an array of LEDs instead of the two 20 Watt HO T5 tubes I have been planning. How many of the high output LEDs would it take to be the same output? I have used K2 emitters (a single royal blue is my moon light). Are there others (Cree)? Thanks, Dave Link to comment
Gomer Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Unfortunately, putting some conversations in layman's terms is highly conterproductive. If there is a term you do not know, just ask or wiki it. Actinics: Cree has Royal blues right now which should rock without optics. They are ~450nm. However, they will not completely replace an actinic. They will give a nice blue/purple and some good fluorescing, but lack the deeper 400-430 region where you get other nice fluorescing that some actinic PCs can give you. Link to comment
jpndave Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Unfortunately, putting some conversations in layman's terms is highly conterproductive. If there is a term you do not know, just ask or wiki it. Actinics: Cree has Royal blues right now which should rock without optics. They are ~450nm. However, they will not completely replace an actinic. They will give a nice blue/purple and some good fluorescing, but lack the deeper 400-430 region where you get other nice fluorescing that some actinic PCs can give you. Thanks for the reply Gomer. Right now I have a 175w 15K Iwasaki in a lumenarc reflector. For the moon light I simply drilled the center of the lumenarc and inserted the K2 for moon light. Essentially, I am using the lumenarc reflector with the K2. It works well. I would consider doing the same thing for the actinic if I can find the right leds. The only actinic that I have found was a 460nm from current. The tubes have to be less than 20". Do you have a link for the Crees? Link to comment
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