changhsu Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 on how to fight the 100's: Ice Ice Baby... The color may look cool, i mean, cold. But the temp is actually around 105F. Should I file for a patent? Link to comment
AbSoluTc Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 Not to be a buzz kill or anything, but unless those cubes are RO-RO/DI water and floating in the tank - there not going to do alot of good sitting above the water on a pair of dowels Link to comment
caja Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Drippidge Abs. Hopefully it is RO/DI or there will be problems. Link to comment
AbSoluTc Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Well, pardon my stupidity - but if your tank or the air around your tank is around 100 degrees, by the time that drip of water hits the tank water - its not going to do much good is it? NO - I dont think so! Link to comment
caja Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Why the heck is the tank at 100 degrees in the first place? Or are you talking air temp? Now if that is a tiny tank, say 2.5 gallons, that many cubes would have the desired efffect. If it were say a 10 gallon, it would have minimal efect. Link to comment
AbSoluTc Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Look, it doesnt matter one bit. A few icecubes are not going to cool CRAP! Maybe there good for running down a womans breast during hot hot sex, but thats about all there good for. That and to keep drinks cold Link to comment
changhsu Posted June 29, 2003 Author Share Posted June 29, 2003 Hahaha LOL! If the idea is not obvious to people, I guess that's a good sign of being granted a patent. Those are RO cubes sitting on chopsticks, dripping into the tank. Yes, the air temp is 100. I'm trying to keep the water under 84 but dumping a whole tray of cubes would probably knock out my starfish. Ice cubes too small? Scoop tank water into a lunch box and make an ice block drip cooler. Link to comment
tow-up Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 why not put the cubes in a ziploc and float em in your hob? Link to comment
changhsu Posted June 30, 2003 Author Share Posted June 30, 2003 Thanks for your chiling thought also. Well, dripping ice cubes has a few advantages: 1) avoid salinity or thermo shock 2) top off water (i'm using fan cooling also) 3) cheap low tech, no messing with tubes or wires Anyway, the first post was mostly to humor people. I probably should have posted this to the lounge. Link to comment
changhsu Posted June 30, 2003 Author Share Posted June 30, 2003 Hey! Sounds like you're the only one who got the irony: it looks cool, but it actually feels hot! Looks like an icy cold water fall, but the critters are all sweating. Hahaha! Thanks! AFAICT, the overheating is causing my feather duster to come out less but my starfish to roam around more, it even tries to stick its arms out of the water- wu, hot! SOS! Link to comment
cuteios Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Wow and I thought my tank got hot the highest level I've seen is 92F. So far the only way I've dropped the temp to 85F was with a bunch of frozen ice bottles. Just make sure that the bottles are very clean before you put them in there. You'll also need to replace them several times a day so have a couple of them in the freezer. Link to comment
dickwayne Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Quit being cheap and buy a chiller if your tank is that hot!! Link to comment
Jandree22 Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 i just bought a $6 fan at walmart and have it blowing across the surface of my 10gal. Works GREAT at keepin the temp down! Air temp's about 85° when the A/C ain't running, keeps the tank at 77° without a prob... just a ton of evaporationX) Link to comment
Yup Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Actually some large buildings use Ice powered ac units like that. Our main building in NY does it that way. Instead of running AC for a huge building which takes alot of power at peak electric rates during they day, they just run fans across ice blocks which cools the air. During the night, and off peak electric rates, they make the ice to use during the day. It save the company money, and the electric company likes it too b/c its conserves power for other customers during heat waves. Link to comment
TiGs Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 I tired floating a bag of ice in a 10gal tank 85F degrees , ice melts within 8 minutes and it didnt make a differece at all. Floating several bottles of frozen water might work better. But your still consistanty having to float ice to keep the temp down, too much effort. If it gets consistently hot and you got money get a IceProbe chiller. I got one and it works wonderfully plus it's an ease of the mind not having to worry about one more thing. Interesting looking picture by the way. Was the picture enhanced or something using a photo editing application? Link to comment
changhsu Posted July 1, 2003 Author Share Posted July 1, 2003 No, it was not edited, it was a lucky quick n dirty shot for fun. Wow, i'm learning a ton of stuff here! That NY story is very intriging! Hey, I'm using a $7 fan from WalMart also! My tank, laptop, and I all 3 take turns using the fan, heh heh. Yes, I suspect melting ice may or may not make a lot of difference. Evaporation may be more effective if not for the water $acrificed. Ice method: 79cal/g + (1cal/g/C x 30C) = 109 cal/g Evap method: 540cal/g Even taking into account raising the temp of melted ice to RTP, evap still removes 5 times more heat than melting. I guess a fan + "fogger" will be the most effective relieve, but it can't control the temp like a chiller. http://www.aquaticeco.com/aquatic1v1/itemp...passitemid=7089 Can some MBA reefer factor in the cost and give us an opinion about the cost effectiveness of each method? Link to comment
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